Notes for Anne Grace Arthur: Baltimore City Directory 1941 -Grace R. Teacher School No 223 R5303 Ready Ave.
Listed in Baltimore Cy Dir 1942 as a school teacher School No 223 Res 5303 Ready Ave.
Grace Regina Arthur St. Johns High School 6/17/1921 Grace Regina Arthur State of MD Maryland State Normal School Towson 6/15/1926
St John's Church Records Born Jan 11, 1906. Baptized Jan 21, 1906. Sponsors were Robert P. Arthur and Mary G. Kelly.
Tape recording between Edward P. Arthur, Adrianne Mary Arthur, Mary Arthur Vail ,Grace Arthur Ireland, and Jack Arthur, Sr. on 10/17/1975:
EA Who was your father? GI George William EA I heard somewhere that he died in 1917 GI Uh Uh 1914, wait a minute. I think it was 14, I am not sure. EA Do you know where he is buried? MV New Cathedral EA Do you know where? MV It's in the old part. The first part that was developed. Right near the caretakers house. Under Kelly. EA Is there a stone there for Kelly? MV No stone. MV Your father was going to have one put there. EA No stone for any of the Kelly's? MV No, No marker. but its ten graves, I think. One of the first lots. Uncle Tom bought them. EA Then it is listed under Tom Kelly? MV Yea EA He is the one in ST. Louis? MV No GI That is Tom Arthur. This was Tom Kelly. EA I'm sorry. I keep getting mixed up. GI Mom had a little piece in there one time. I think it was about where he died, the cemetery on Harford road. He was stricken right there. He worked for the city. The cemetery across from the High School. EA You mean Clifton Park? GI No, down from there. The old cemetery. On the right side before you get to 25th Street. This piece tells about him. EA Was that in the paper? GI Uh Huh MV They were going to run him for the City Council but he died. He was a politician. He died a couple of months before the election. GI The Baltimore Sun EA That was 1914? GI I think it was 1912, Eddie. GI If I find it after you go home I will call you and read it to you. EA What month was it?" GI May MV May, it was very hot. EA and you said they were going to run him for the City Council? MV Uh Huh MV He worked for Bernie Lee when he was warden in the jail and in return for helping him carry some of the wards he was going to put him up for City Council. EA How old was He? GI 34 MV 35 GI Make me a liar for a year. GI Bernie Lee was the warden at the jail and my father did all his work for him. MV He couldn't sign his name and my father used to sign all his checks for him. EA I think I remember Pop saying this. MV He used to make a big X, but he was smart enough to get a big job. EA So he was born when? GI It must have been 18 something, Eddie. EA 1878 or 1877? MV You have to figure he was 35 years old. EA No stone, eh? MV The Frederick road part was started first. EA Are those graves all filled? Is that where Ma is? MV Yea EA Who is all buried there? MV Uncle Tom, Aunt Mamie. EA Who is she? MV Mary Jane Kelly. She was the oldest in the family. MV Uncle Tom Kelly MV and Joe and Jimmy. GI This shows everyone in there. EA Section 37 S110 MV We had a sister that died, Margaret, they put her on top of someone. EA Looks like two empty graves there. MV Does it have George W., my father? EA Yes, George W. Arthur and Margaret. MV Mary Jane Kelly and three brothers. EA James F. Thomas J. Mary J. Anna M. GI I don't know who that is, Eddie? EA Thomas Kelly and M R Arthur MV That was Margaret, my sister who died. EA and John Kelly? MV That is the one who died early. GI Born in Philadelphia but died here. EA It says "extra deep" EA You have Thomas Kelly and Thomas J. Kelly EA Thomas Kelly and M R Kelly MV That's the little girl then. MV Two Thomas' there? EA April 16, 1881 EA $49 for 10 graves EA South Half GI Eddie should see the deed for 907 E. Chase St sometime. MV They fixed that house up. It looks gorgeous. Cost $30,000. Jack saw it. We rode by it. They have a beautiful entrance. Black as ink all around there. I would go back in a minute because I imagine it is gorgeous inside too. EA Who were George's brothers? MV Thomas. EA These are all Arthurs, right? MV Yes, Thomas, Frank, Jimmy and a sister Mary. GI Mary Jane MV No, Mary Arthur Cardwell. EA She married a Cardwell? MV Yes, she married a Cardwell. MV He was from Kingsville. We used to go up there in the summer, but my Mother would only stay a week. took a trunk and everything with her. He had a big farm up there. EA Kingsville? Out the Belair road? MV Yes MV and we have the trunk up in Grace's cupboard that Grandmother Kelly brought over from Ireland. MV That's really an antique. You ought to go up and take a look at it. GI It took them a month to come over. MV She and grandfather both came from Ireland but they didn't meet each other until they came to America. EA Do you know anything about your grandfather? MV Arthur? He was a policeman. EA What was his name? MV Thomas EA Did he have a middle name? MV I think it was John. EA Do you know where they lived? MV The lived on Eager Street down by the bridge. Across from the penitentiary. EA and he was a policeman? MV Uh huh, in one of the Sunday papers they had, fifty years ago. they had his name, that time it was just a few years ago and it was in the Sun. EA Yea, I saw that. EA and I have his badge. MV You do? EA Well, George Brennan told me he checked the records and got his badge. The record said he died of consumption. A Who is he? EA Pop's Grandfather. EA Who did he marry? MV Sarah Denmeade. EA Then they had three sons, Frank, Thomas, and Jimmy? EA and do you know who his father was? MV No, maybe Mitchell, no. There is a Mitchell that comes in there somewhere. They had a drugstore at Charles and Preston under the name of Phillips. Grace-What relation was Lloyd Mitchell? GI Something to the Arthurs MV Yea GI A cousin or something. MV What was Grandfather Arthur father's name? EA You say you have a trunk. Whose trunk do you have? EA What I am trying to find out is when the Arthurs' came over from Ireland. MV Well. Grandmother Arthur was born in this country. and I think he was too. they didn't come from Ireland but the Kelly's came from Ireland. EA Wait a minute now. Your father. OK, we've got. You don't know when the Arthur's came over though. Thomas lived here. I can remember Pop telling me that Thomas Arthur's father was a lawyer who had come here a couple of times. MV There was a lawyer and an Archbishop. GI Is this a school project? EA Oh No GI Here is a picture-Mom has it marked "our Home" she didn't think any other home was her home. EA Who is that on the steps? MV I think it is me. GI Patsy was down here one night and I brought all of the pictures. She just raved. She said she could spend six hours right here. all this stuff we have around here. MV This in front of our house. EA You had very little information of Thomas Arthur, right? MV Yea, other than he was a policeman. EA You don't remember him? MV Kinda EA He wasn't dead? MV Uh uh, we used to go down there every Sunday. EA Could he be one of the two Thomas' buried there? Is that why you have two Thomas'? MV No, none of them were buried in our lot. EA Where do you think he was buried. MV They had their own lot. GI Now whose name was Mitchell? MV Remember there was Lloyd Mitchell. GI Wasn't Grandfather Arthur's mothers name Mitchell? GI That's Thomas Arthur mother's maiden name. Mitchell. and thats how they are related to Lloyd. EA Who is Lloyd Mitchell? GI A millionaire here in the city. He owned a plumbing place. MV No, that's a different Mitchell. GI Is it? MV It wasn't Lloyd Mitchell. GI Who was the one who had the drugstore on the corner? MV That was Lloyd Mitchell's daughter. GI Phillips? GI They were related. MV They were related to the Arthurs. GI Was his name, Lloyd? MV The drugstore was under the name of Phillips because that was Lloyd Mitchell's daughter. I think Mitchell was a detective. EA You don't remember anything beyond your grandfather? GI I'll bring the stuff down to the country (Catherine and Lillian). they had more to do with them than we did. Mom thought they should have treated her better than they did. and Jack still feels that way to this day. He sort of resents it when we get together but I don't feel that way. It wasn't the girls fault. Lillian and Catherine. They were Jimmies children. There were two girls and one boy. Clayton died. EA Back to Thomas. He went to St. Louis? MV He had five daughters. MV Isabel GI After the goof, you know, Margaret. MV Mary EA After the goof? GI Isabel Frederick. Whoop!! GI Elizabeth MV Catherine GI She was a nun EA How come he went to St. Louis? GI He was a grain merchant. EA How come he went out there? MV He married a girl from out there. Her name was Jo Brown. EA I suppose he is buried out there? MV Yea, and I think they are all dead. GI Every time Jo had a baby he gave her a diamond ring. I think that is why she had all of those babies. Just to get that diamond ring. And if she vacuumed the floor or anything--- MV She had to stay in bed the whole next day. GI My mother was out there. She saw all this stuff, you know? EA How about the next one? Frank MV Frank? He married a girl named Jennie Tracy and they had Frank Jr. and Rhona and Timmy or Thomas. GI Thomas, but they called him Timmy. MV Frank died when he was about 20 years old. and Rhona is in New Jersey. She married a fellow named Leon Godlier. GI They all died all young. Frank was about 20. Thomas/Timmy was about 30. MV Died on his way to work in his car. Our Jimmy went and identified the body. EA What did Frank do? MV Little Frank? GI They had a fancy grocery store on Preston Street. MV The name is still up there on the wall. EA Preston and what? MV Between Guilford and Calvert. GI Its right on the corner at the alley. EA And they are all dead? Oh, Rhona is still alive. GI Right. EA James GI Was King Arthur's mayonnaise MV He owned that at one time. GI He sprang out of the grocery business. MV Jews forced him out. GI and he went into business for himself. It was all over Baltimore. King Arthur's mayonnaise. MV He always said that they forced him out of business because he had cheaper stuff. EA How many children did he have? GI Lillian, Catherine, Paul Stuart and Clayton. EA And Clayton died? MV Yea EA He died a couple of years ago? GI Uh huh EA Who did he marry? GI Katie Johnson-Catherine Johnson EA And then we have Mary Arthur Cardwell? GI Yea MV She had one son. His name was Thomas. EA Is he still around? GI No, he died. Very young. EA He get married? GI Yes, but I don't remember to whom. MV I don't know either. EA What ever happened to Sarah Denmeade? GI Do you know Mary? MV What? GI What happened to Muddy Arthur? MV She died on Eager Street. I don't know when. EA That was your father's mother? GI Mother. MV and my father died before she did. MV Aunt Mary Arthur came to the house and we opened the door and she said,"it can't be so, my brother George is too handsome to die" . Thats what she said when she came to the door. GI and her mother was sick then. EA Who was aunt Mary? GI That was Middy Arthur's daughter, my father's sister, Mary Cardwell. MV She was the only girl. EA Lets go back to the Kelly's now. No telling when Maggie was born, right? GI Do you know Mary when Mom was born? MV How long has she been dead? EA She died in 1958 MV Jack said she was about 80 when she died. GI She died on January 5, 1958. EA Who were her parents? MV Thomas and Anna Kelly GI and her mother's name was Anna? EA They came over MV Right EA Thomas Kelly came over. GI Yes and Anna Clark too EA When did her father come over here. GI They came over by sailboat: they would go two weeks one way and two weeks back. It took a couple of months. EA Did they ever mention the name of it? GI NO EA Did they come with other people? GI Yes, other people in the baggage department. EA Where did they come from? MV Newry EA What county? MV County Down GI I was little but I remember my grandmother. MV Grandmother Kelly would tell how awful it was. GI They would go back and forth, over the steps that they had taken. It took months for them to come over. EA When did your father and mother get married? GI She never mentioned it. MV Probably 1896 EA When Thomas and Anna came over were they married? MV No-they didn't meet in Ireland. They met here in this country. EA Did they come from Newry? GI I think Grandfather Kelly came from Cork MV I don't know-I don't think he came from there. GI She went to a convent there. Her mother used to say Donegal, they eat potato skins and all. EA She was from Donegal? GI No-They were considered trash and also that other county over there, down. She never talked like an Irish. she was educated in Newry and she was a perfect lady, her speech was - her English was perfect. EA Do you remember the name of the convent? GI If I heard it I would know. Its in Newry-there is a little town there-they use to love it-people were all high class people, religious people. EA Did she come over with her family? AA Her is Newry, it is on the map. GI Is it N-e-w-r-y? EA Right above Dublin in County Down GI She came over and left her mother in Ireland. She came over with a sister who settled in Philadelphia. EA Wait a minute. She came over with a sister? GI and left her mother in Ireland. EA and settled in Philadelphia. GI and then grandmother Kelly came on to Baltimore or after she met Tom, she did, after they got married. EA Did she meet him in Phila? GI Yes, and they were married there? EA What was he doing in Philadelphia? GI Well, he had this fashionable shoemaking-bootery shop for all the wealthy people in Baltimore. MV Where was it? GI On Centre Street, right near Loyola college. We used to go down and look at it. A little place on the corner and the day he died. MV Hand made shoes-he had a pair of shoes that were handmade with buttons up the side which he wouldn't part with. GI The were gorgeous shoes. I never saw such beautiful leather. EA What was he doing in Philadelphia? do you think he came into Philadelphia? MV Uh huh GI I think he did. That's were they met. GI I don't know how he got to Philadelphia but they settled there and from there they came down here. EA Do you think they were married up there? GI Yea and two children were born up there. EA Oh, which ones. GI Tom and Mary Jane EA Then they came down and settled on Eager St? GI No, they settled on Hillen St. What was the number of that? MV Right below the Belair Market. EA Probably not there any more. MV NO GI Until a couple of years ago, my mother always wanted to go back there because when she stayed out late at night she could get in the cellar window and they never knew she was out. EA Thomas and Mary Jane were born in Philadelphia and all the rest were born here? MV Right EA So where was Ma in the scheme of things? The youngest? MV Next to the youngest. Jimmy was the youngest. EA Then there was Uncle Tom, right? GI He never married. EA Did I ever get their children? They had Thomas. GI and Jimmy EA and Joseph GI None married MV Mary Jane EA that's Ma's sister? MV Uh huh, and there was a Johnny who died when he was a boy EA and Thomas never married. MV No GI He was a printer with the government in Washington. He travelled back and forth on the train every day. EA and Jimmy? GI Jimmy was a brain MV He was a CPA GI He worked at the Rennart Hotel for years as bookkeeper, the old Rennart. EA and he never married? MV No, none of them married EA and Joseph, what did he do? GI Joseph was a printer EA Printer too? Here in Baltimore? GI Yea EA and Mary Jane, did she marry? GI Mary Jane was a seamstress-never married, she helped to raise us. MV So did the Uncles. After my father died we never walked upstairs at night to bed, one of the three Uncles would carry us on their backs. GI All of us EA That was Uncle Tom's house, right? MV Yea, right. EA When did you first move there? GI We were all born there. GI When we bought that house-I will show you the deed if you want to see it. EA So your father and mother lived there? GI They never moved away from there. EA How do the Holdens fit in? GI They were my mother's sister, Anna Kelly EA I didn't get her. GI She is another sister like Mary Jane. EA We had Thomas, Jimmy, Joseph, Mary Jane, Margaret, John and Anna and she married. GI To James Holden EA I remember you had the wedding thing one time. GI Their announcement-wedding invitation. EA You had that at one of the weddings GI I gave that to Agnes Dingle. they had a big wedding at 907 E. Chase St. I'm sorry I gave that invitation away. EA So there was James Holden and where are all the Holdens, how do the Dingles fit in? MV Genevieve EA She is real old isn't she? MV Yea, Regina GI Dead M Doyle EA Regina Doyle and who else? MV Agnes GI Dingle and James Holden MV Married Catherine Murphy GI Francis EA And who did he marry? GI He married Adele Schutz MV and Mary Holden-a single one. EA You were telling us about Genevieve down the ocean MV Yes, they put her in a home. EA and that's it, the Holdens, Frank Holden MV Oh, and Charley Kelly, we forgot him. GI He was President of the John Murphy[ Company MV He's my mother's brother GI John Murphy was a religious store MV He wrote a book one time EA I wonder where he is buried? GI In their own lot in New Cathedral. He married Gracie Lyons. I'm named after her. EA Gee, how could you forget him? MV and they had Charles, Elizabeth and Gilbert. Three children EA I have heard about Gilbert MV Charles married the girl that worked down the hospital with Georgie GI Her name was Marguerite, they called her May EA and James Holden had all those kids, and that's how the Dingles fit in. Frank Holden, is he still alive? MV Yea EA What other names? Holdens, Dingles. MV Jimmy Holden and Catherine had two children-I guess Buzzy's name was Jimmy wasn't it? and Margaret? The are both married. MV Margaret is married to Kahoe. GI Kahoe Transit and Traffic. He is head of that for Baltimore city. EA In your family, Aunt Mary, you were the oldest, right? MV Yes, then George, Jimmy, the Margaret, the one who died, then Grace and Jack. EA When did Margaret die? GI When you had the scarlet fever and she was a infant. She got scarlet fever and the infant got it. I got her picture in there. MV She was just a baby GI I would say two years old EA And she is buried out there too? MV Yes, on top of them. EA M-R right?, Margaret Regina. MV Yea, that was Mom's name. GI Margaret Matilda MV Margaret Regina, she was christened Margaret Matilda but she took Margaret Regina for her confirmation name. She hated Matilda so she always had to sign Margaret Regina. GI Here is a picture of Uncle tom, here is one of Uncle Charlie, the one who ran the John Murphy Co. and thats my mother, grandmother Kelly, aunt Mary Jane, my mothers sister. MV That's George GI Jimmy MV Jimmy JA We used to sing "Welcome, Oh Welcome, Monsignor dear All your dear children are glad you are here" (Jack Arthur singing)
This was his golden anniversary. Monsignor Devine! He was the pastor and he had his 50th Jubilee the day I graduated from St. John's school. EA I think you said your father was going to run for City Council? MV Bernie Lee was going to run him the following spring. On election day when Bernie Lee was running it rained and rained and my father was out in the rain all day. Every once in awhile he would come home to change his suit. GI You see he was so appreciative that he was going --- MV To put him up for city council, that was in the Fall and he died in May. EA How old was Uncle Jimmy when he died? MV 47 and Ann was--how old? She was 5 years younger than Jimmy JA Not quite--I think she was older than I am. She was a little older Than me. EA Grandfather Kelly came over from Ireland rather recently-1870, 1860, right? JA Before 1880 GI She had a sister who lived in Philadelphia JA Did she come over before Grand Pop? GI NO MV They didn't know each other in Ireland GI and they met in this country. EA and you don't know where he came from or yes you think he came from cork, b But she came from Newry? JA She came from Newry, which is in County Louth, which is in the north of Ireland. MV We said County Down JA Louth is what I remember or he was from Louth either or the other. GI Adrianne has a map.........I remember Louth in school. EA Longford, Louth JA Its in the north of Ireland right above the border between north and south. GI That's probably where he was from, Jack MV Yea JA I think Newry is in Louth. GI Is It? AA Its in Down MV Its in Down EA Dundalk is the big city in Louth and Newry is the big city in Down. They are next one another. About 30 miles apart. GI And what County is that in, Eddie? Newry? EA Newry is in County Down JA She must have come from Louth. It sticks in my mind. EA Newry is in the north of Ireland and Louth is in the south of Ireland. Newry is part of Ulster. Its not far from Ulster. Its not far from Belfast. GI What , Newry? EA Northern Ireland is very close to Scotland, about 20 miles over the Irish Sea, so the Arthur's could have come from North or Scotland. JA Its not really... MV An Irish name EA But we are talking about the Kelly's here though JA Yea, does it show any Arthur's there? EA Yes, there are plenty of Arthur's in the north of Ireland. JA They had to be English to begin with. MV It was an English name. EA MacArthur could be Scottish JA I think they got caught stealing sheep in Ireland and got chased out EA I remember Pop telling me that Uncle Tom, who went to St. Louis, had gone to Ireland and looked at gravestones and so forth JA I know he had... MV A family tree JA Nobody knows what became of it, there is nobody left out there GI It was quite an extensive one JA He spent a lot of time and money EA Sometimes they publish those and put them in libraries JA You know there is a family seal. Did you ever see it? I sent away for it. I got it someplace in Ohio. I don't know whether it is authentic or not. I was impressed with the colors and everything. EA Back to King Arthur. You can have someone do this too. GI You're right Eddie JA Its a lot of work. Jackie started one once. I don't know how far back he went but you might talk to him EA Its funny. I talked to Mom about her side of the family. she doesn't know any of her family beyond the immediate. EA They come from Annapolis. A lot of the stories don't pan out. MV My mother's maiden name was McKewen JA Grandmother Kelly was Annie Clark GI Her mother was McKewen EA Patrick Burns came from Annapolis GI How did you find out how to do this? EA Adrianne and I took a course, JA Where? EA At the library GI Hyattsville? EA Yea, there is just lectures. 50% of the class was Mormon JA The Mormons can marry as many times as they want. If they get married ten times and they each had ten kids. End of Interview
1930 Baltimore City Directory shows "Grace R. Arthur, Tchr Public School No 223 R 907 E. Chase St."
Jack Arthur reports that Miss Grace Arthur was the valedictorian of her 1924 Graduating Class from St. John's High School.
More About Anne Grace Arthur: Burial: 24 Jun 1992, Druid Ridge Cemetery.