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John Tilley (b. December 19, 1571, d. Bet. January - March 1620/21)

John Tilley (son of Robert Tilley and Elizabeth)²⁷⁴² was born December 19, 1571 in Henlow, Bedford, ENG (Baptized)²⁷⁴², and died Bet. January - March 1620/21 in Plymouth, MA^{2743, 2744}. He married Joan Hurst on September 20, 1596 in Henlow ENG, daughter of William Hurst and Rose Marshe.

Notes for John Tilley:
Source of the following is http://members.aol.com/calebj/passenger.html Caleb Johnson's Mayflower Web page

ANCESTRAL SUMMARY:
John Tilley, his wife Joan (Hurst) Rogers, and daughter Elizabeth came on the Mayflower. John and Joan died the first winter, but Elizabeth lived, married John Howland, and had eleven children. John's brother Edward Tilley came with wife Ann Cooper on the Mayflower as well.

John Tilley did not marry Prijntgen (Elizabeth) van der Velde in Holland. That was easily disproved in Mayflower Descendant 10:66-67, and by the subsequent identification of Joan (Hurst) Rogers. Also note that the article in the Mayflower Quarterly 49:16+ entitled "John Tilley Jr, 1599-1636" presents a theory as to what happened to John Tilley's son John, but the article has been criticized as presenting no proof but just speculations (Wakefield in MD 43:76; Stratton p. 362).

John's wife Joan is the daughter of William Hurst and Rose (---). William was born c1530, and died before 1571. He lived in Henlow, Bedford, England. Joan Hurst was baptized in Henlow, Bedford, England on 13 March 1567/8. She married first Thomas Rogers (no known relation to Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower), and second John Tilley.

The known ancestry of John Tilley is as follows (from The American Genealogist 52:198-208):

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Henry Tilley, b. c1465, d. 1520 === Johan (---)
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Thomas Tilley, b. c1490, d. 1556 === Margaret (---)
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William Tilley, b. c1515, d. Jan. 1578/9 === Agnes (---)
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Robert Tilley, b. c1540, d. Feb. 1612/3 === Elizabeth (---)
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John Tilley, Mayflower passenger

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BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARY:
John Tilley came on the Mayflower with his wife Joan and daughter Elizabeth. John's brother Edward Tilley also came on the Mayflower.

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SOURCES:
Caroline Lewis Kardell, "An English Line from John Tilley", Mayflower Quarterly, 65(August 1999):208-209.

Robert Leigh Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers: Tilley, Sampson, and Cooper," The American Genealogist 52:198-208.

Robert Leigh Ward, "The Baronial Ancestry of Henry Sampson, Humility Cooper, and Ann (Cooper) Tilley," The Genealogist 6:166-186.

Robert Leigh Ward, "Further Traces of John Tilley of the Mayflower," The American Genealogist 60(1984):171-173.

George E. Bowman, "Jan Tellij of Leyden was Not John Tilley of the Mayflower," Mayflower Descendant 10:66-67.

Elizabeth Pearson White, John Howland of the Mayflower through Desire Howland for Five Generations, vol. 1 (Camden: Picton Press, 1990).

More About John Tilley:
Baptism: December 19, 1571²⁷⁴⁵
Mayflower: Passenger.

More About John Tilley and Joan Hurst:
Marriage 1: September 20, 1596, Henlow ENG.
Marriage 2: September 10, 1596, Henlow, ENG.²⁷⁴⁶

Marriage Notes for John Tilley and Joan Hurst:
This marriage was found on Compuserve. It does not agree with the Elizabeth Leggett I had previously.

Children of John Tilley and Joan Hurst are:

+Elizabeth Tilley, b. Bef. August 30, 1607, Henlow, Bedfordshire, Eng (Baptized)²⁷⁴⁷, d. December 21, 1687, Swansea, MA^{2748, 2749, 2750, 2751}.