Dear Folks, Mystery Solved! Today I had the privledge to talk to Dan Moreno Carpenter the son of Donald Marshall Carpenter. He indicates that his father served on the USS Langley and USS Wright. These were the first aircraft carriers of the U.S. Navy. Dan indicated that the Carpenter ancestry of his father, Donald M. Carpenter, is as follows: subject: Donald M. Carpenter 1894-1940 father: Dan Carpenter (1866-1938) Number 8710 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 808. grandfather: Luther Carpenter (1833-1912) Number 8703 ggfather: Nathan Thornton Carpenter (1804-?) Number 3288 gggfather: Nathan Carpenter (1777-1816) Number 1529 ggggfather: Cyril Carpenter (1743-1811) Number 596 gggggfather: Josiah Carpenter (1719-1746) Number 170 ggggggfather: Obadiah Carpenter (1677-1749) Number 40 gggggggfather: William Carpenter (1631-1703) Number 18 ggggggggfather: William Carenter (1605-1659) Number 16 This is Captian William Carpenter of Rehoboth, MA Many Thanks to Dan Moreno Carpenter! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA 9 Oct 2000 ******************************************************************** Donald Marshall Carpenter (M) Birth: 6 MAR 1894 -- Hopbottom, Pennsylvania (Scranton) Death: 4 APR 1940 -- Naval Hospital, San Diego, California Spouse: Clara Dorr Moreno Parents: Notes: 1 Appointed to U. S. Naval Academy Class of 1916 from Pennsylvania. Entered as midshipman 12 July 1912, graduated and commissioned Ensign 3 June 1916. Lieutenant (temporary rank) 15 October 1917. LTJG 3 June 1919. LT 1 July 1920 LCDR 1 September 1926. Retired 1 October 1936 for "incapacity from an incident of the service". Spouse & Children Clara Dorr Moreno - Donald Marshall Carpenter - Dan Moreno Carpenter Spouse: Clara Dorr Moreno Birth: 2 MAY 1903 Place: Pensacola, Escambia, Florida Christening: Death: 15 MAY 2000 Place: Coronado, California Burial: 25 MAY 2000 11:30 a.m. Christ Episcopal Church, Coronado, California3 Notes: 1 Clare, as she preferred to be called, loved the Navy and the exciting social activity that came with being married to a Naval Officer. Her husband, Doc, was one of the pioneer Naval Aviators and many of his peers became very senior officers. One time in 1946 Bill and Marion Saltmarsh stayed with Clare in Coronado, where she and Doc had settled in 1934. One night they returned from a movie and found the house filled with Admirals who were in the kitchen washing dishes. After Doc's death she was a hostess at Consolidated and later got into real estate. She built several houses in Coronado and also sold many for herself and other customers. At this writing in July 1998 she is still living in Coronado in a beautiful condominium and is 95 years old, in poor health but still hanging on! Many of her friends from Pensacola married naval aviators (Pensacola is referred to as the Mother-in-Law of the Navy). These friends's spouses were all senior Admirals. Clare hobnobbed with the Bushes, the Shermans and the like. In her later years Clare catered many parties and was a consummate hostess. 2 Clare died of natural causes very quitetly in her home. 3 Her son, Pat, wrote that the service was wonderful and that over a hundred of her friends spanning the ages from her contemporaries to ours attended. Pat said that her sister, Susie Saltmarsh, would have been proud of her "Topsy", as she called her. (Her sister, Elizabeth whom we all called Liberta) coined this nickname and always referred to her as "Top". Clara's cremains were interred with her first husband, Donald Marshall Carpenter, at Fort Rosencrans National Cemetery. This cemetery was where her niece, Elizabeth Gabrielle Saltmarsh Wyatt was laid to rest in 1959. Her father: Scarritt Moreno Birth: 13 MAR 1862 Death: 23 FEB 1933 Pensacola, Escambia, Florida Burial: ABT 25 FEB 1933 St. Johns Cemetery, Pensacola, Florida Notes: 1 Prominent Pensacolian who was in the Lumber and Timber business. Her mother: Susan Sydney Roberts Birth: 6 APR 1859 Christening: Death: 25 AUG 1911 Pensacola, Escambia, Florida Burial: ABT 28 AUG 1911 "Peace" (home), Westmoreland Cty, Virginia Notes: 1 She was the daughter of one of the partners of the once prominent E. E. Simpson & Co. of Bagdad. 2 Twin ******************************************************************************* UPDATE: From California Death Index: Age Post-ems CARPENTER, DONALD MARSHALL DOB: 03/06/1894 DOD: 04/04/1940 Mother's maiden name: MCVICAR Father's last name: CARPENTER State of birth: PENNSYLVANIA Location of death: SAN DIEGO(37) SSN: 553-10-2643 Age at death: 46 Note: interred in Rosecrans National Cemetery, San Diego, CA We still need his ancestry and family! See below! ******************************************************** Subject: Re: Carpenters in Hopbottom Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:45:45 -0800 From: diluvius@flash.net To: jrcrin001@home.com References: 1 John, The Susquehanna Co. PA Carpenters are all, so far, descended from the New England family you are researching, so I may be able to add to that branch of your CD database as we go along here. Do you have a Harry C. Carpenter, born ca. 1876, wife Lillian and daughter Beulah M., in Susquehanna Co. PA around the 1905-1915 timeframe, who later removed to Endicott, Broome Co., NY? Mary Hafler has helped me in the search for Donald Marshall Carpenter's parents, and I am trying to return the favor. If you can help her with data from your database, I would be most grateful. Her e-mail address is if you wish to reply to her also. Thank you! Terry Mghafler@aol.com wrote: > > My search found my husband's mother and grandparents to confirm what little > information we know. Harry C. Carpenter, wife Lillian and daughter Beulah M. > who later removed to Endicott, Broome, NY and are buried there. I did not > find your Douglas Marshall Carpenter named in the listing and he would have > been about 16 at that time. > > If you have any other first names and do not find the website, let me know as > I did take notes. My son and I hope to visit that area sometime to check on > records. I think Montrose is the county seat. Hopbottom really is just a > hamlet these days. Thanks for offer of sharing but am not ready unless you > have a Harry C., probably born around 1876 and running hotel 1905-1915 time > period. > > Good luck in your search, > > Mary in Saratoga ******************************************************** Subject: Donald. M. Carpenter Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:56:07 -0800 From: diluvius@flash.net To: jrcrin001@home.com John, I'm a step closer to identifying Donald M. Carpenter. He was born 1894 in Susquehanna Co. PA. I have not been able to get to the 1900 census, but in the 1910 census I find in Alleghany Co. PA: Dan E. Carpenter 43 PENN Wife Stella M. 37, PENN Son Donald M. 16, PENN Son Geral F. 09, PENN Daughter Dorris L. 08, N J The name and age are right, and Donald M. named a son Dan. Alleghany is a long way west, but, it is not out of the question for them to be there, especially after looping back through NJ where daughter Doris was born in 1902. Do you have a Dan Carpenter, born c1867 in PA, who married Stella M. (?Marshall?) in your database? I'm compiling the information on Donald, wife, and sons, and working other ways to connect him to his origins, and plan to have something to share this week. Thanks again! Terry ********************************************************* Dear Folks, We have a (another) small mystery. And maybe you can help? In 1945 a ship was made called the USS Carpenter. It was named after apioneering Naval pilot Lieutenant Commander Donald Marshall Carpenter. He was supposedly a prominent figure in the early days of naval aviation. However, we can not find mention of him. Does anyone know who he was? His ancestry? The messages below have links and some search efforts made so far. Can anyone please help? Sincerely, John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA *************************************** Dear Terry Lee, No match in any of the data bases I have. I did a search online andfound some more stuff. "http://sites.netscape.net/icejjjrhttp://www.plateau.net/usndd/dd825/Builder: Consolidated Steel Corporation, Orange, TX Keel date: July 30, 1945 Launched: Dec. 28, 1945 Completed: Newport News, Virginia Dec. 15, 1949 Commissioned: Newport News, Virginia Dec. 15, 1949 Stricken: Dec. 20, 1981 Fate: Turkish Navy - "Anitepe" To Turkey February 20 1981, renamed Anittepe. Stricken November 1997. Fate To be broken up for scrap. http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/825.htm this page has pictures. http://www.ironbarr.com/usnships/ddk825.htm near the bottom is an interesting history of the ship. http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/ww1av.htm I think - guess - Donald Marshall Carpenter may have been in World War I or in just after. I did not have a chance to search this on line book. NAVAL AVIATION IN WORLD WAR I Well maybe not ... http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/usna1910.htm United States Naval Aviation 1910-1995 Table of Contents (the following files are in .pdf, see note at bottom of this page) Welcome Section for United States Naval Aviation 1910-1995 (38 kb file) Title page, Contents, Foreword, Preface, Acknowledgements and Glossary (95 kb file) Part 1 A Few Pioneers 1898-1916 (634 kb file) Part 2 Test of Strength 1917-1919 (618 kb file) Part 3 The Twenties 1920-1929 (844 kb file) Part 4 The Thirties 1930-1939 (661 kb file) Part 5 World War II 1940-1945 (1.3 mb file) I searched these parts for "Carpenter" and no mention was found! He must have been a minor player!? Any thoughts? Should we go to the Forums? John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ******************************************************** diluvius@flash.net wrote: John --- We should adopt this ship as a special interest of Carpenter family historians. Do you have Donald Marshall Carpenter in your database? This link