Vietnam MIA/KIA list. Can you help identify these Carpenters? I would like to add them and their ancestry to the Carpenter CD Project. Of the 5 below only two (# 1 & #5) came home. See detail below. Can you help find the families for the Carpenter CD? Loss Date Last Name First Name Branch Country DOB Town State Remarks ========= ========= ========== ====== ======= ======= ========== == 1 02/15/68 CARPENTER JOE V. USAF NVN 02/24/31 MAYSVILLE KY 08/09/68 RELEASED HANOI DECEASED OCT 82 2 03/06/67 CARPENTER HOWARD B. ARMY LAOS 02/23/44 YOUNGSTOWN OH 3 03/31/69 CARPENTER RAMEY LEO USN LAOS 10/21/42 NORMAN OK REMAINS ID'D 06/24/98 4 06/24/68 CARPENTER NICHOLAS MALLOR USN NVN 07/30/42 CINCINNATI OH PROB DIED IN WRECKAGE REMAINS RETURNED 9/90 5 11/01/66 CARPENTER ALLAN R. USN NVN 03/14/38 SPRINGVALE ME 03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV ALIVE AND WELL 98 http://www.scopesys.com/powmia/powsearch.html #1 CARPENTER, JOE VICTOR DECEASED October 1982 Name: Joe Victor Carpenter Branch/Rank: United States Air Force/O3/pilot Unit: 389 TFS Date of Birth: 24 Feb 31 Home City of Record: MAYSVILLE KY Date of Loss: 15 February 1968 Country of Loss: North Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 173100 North 1063500 East Status (in 1973): Returnee Category: Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: F4D Missions: 98 Other Personnel in Incident: LAWRENCE WRITER, returnee Refno: Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews and CACCF = Combined Action Combat Casualty File. REMARKS: 680809 RELEASED HANOI No further information available at this time. #2 CARPENTER, HOWARD B. Name: Howard B. Carpenter Rank/Branch: E5/US Army 5th Special Forces Unit: HHC, C & C Detachment Date of Birth: 23 February 1944 (New Castle PA) Home City of Record: Youngstown OH Date of Loss: 06 March 1967 Country of Loss: Laos Loss Coordinates: 161817N 1070226E (YD180036) Status (in 1973): Killed/Body Not Recovered Category: 3 Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: Ground Refno: 0608 Other Personnel In Incident: (None missing) Source: Compiled by Homecoming II Project 30 June 1990 from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK 1998. REMARKS: SYNOPSIS: U.S. Army Special Forces SGT Howard B. Carpenter was a member of a company-sized exploitation force infiltrated into enemy territory. On March 6, 1967, the company was in southern Savannakhet Province, Laos near the border of South Vietnam when it made contact with an enemy force of unknown size. In the ensuing battle, Carpenter was fatally wounded as he attempted to assist other personnel who had been wounded. Carpenter's remains were recovered by another teammember and it was determined that he had died from the wounds he had received during the firefight. Because of enemy pressure in the area, the company was forced to leave Carpenter's remains behind as they sought a more secure position. It was not possible to ever retrieve Carpenter's remains. He is listed with honor among nearly 2500 Americans who remain unaccounted for from the war in Vietnam. Carpenter's case seems clear enough, and although it is tragic that this American hero cannot be buried in the soil for which he proudly fought, his family at least knows with some certainty what happened to him. Tragically, experts now believe, based on thousands of reports, that hundreds of Americans did not die, but are still held prisoner in Southeast Asia. Carpenter would not have left them behind. How can we? #3 CARPENTER, RAMEY LEO REMAINS RETURNED AND ID'd 06/24/98 Name: Ramey Leo Carpenter Branch/Rank: United States Navy/O3 Unit: Date of Birth: 21 October 1942 Home City of Record: NORMAN OK Date of Loss: 31 March 1969 Country of Loss: LAOS Loss Coordinates: 173958 North 1050957 East Status (in 1973): Killed in Action/Body not Recovered Category: 2 Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: FA5C #150842 Missions: Other Personnel in Incident: Refno: 1420 Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews and CACCF = Combined Action Combat Casualty File. REMARKS: KHAMMOUANE - 5 miles NW of NHOMMARATH CACCF CRASH/AIRCREW 4 YRS USN No further information available at this time. 06/24/98 The Armed Forces Identification Review Board (AFIRB) has very recently finalized approval of five identifications recommend by the Central identification Laboratory (CILHI). Those announced as accounted for include Commander Danforth E. White, USN, and Lt. Commander Captain Ramey L. Carpenter, USN, missing since March 31, 1969, in Laos and Major William H. Condit, Jr., and Lt. Terry M. Reed, both USAF, missing since June 23, 1969, in South Vietnam. The remains of Commander White Lt. Commander Carpenter were jointly recovered in Laos on March 3, 1997. The remains of Major Condit and Lt. Reed were jointly recovered in south Vietnam on November 29, 1994. The remains of one additional American, jointly recovered in South Vietnam on May 6, 1988, were also identified, but his family requested that his name not be released. #4 CARPENTER, NICHOLAS MALLOR Name: Nicholas Mallor Carpenter Branch/Rank: United States Navy/O3 Unit: Date of Birth: 30 July 1942 Home City of Record: CINCINNATI OH Date of Loss: 24 June 1968 Country of Loss: North Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 183700 North 1053900 East Status (in 1973): Presumptive Finding of Death Category: 2 Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: A6A Missions: Other Personnel in Incident: JOSEPH MOBLEY Bombadier/Navigator, returnee Refno: 1214 Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews and CACCF = Combined Action Combat Casualty File. REMARKS: PROB DIED IN WRECKAGE - EGRESS Carpenter was the pilot. REMAINS RETURNED 01/89 Identified 4/91 SPIN OUT OF CONTROL, MOBLEY EJECTED. NGHE AN NEAR VINH No further information available at this time. #5 CARPENTER, ALLAN RUSSELL Name: Allan Russell Carpenter Rank/Branch: O3/US Navy Unit: Attack Squadron 72, USS FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (CVA 42) Date of Birth: 14 March 1938 (Portland ME) Home City of Record: Springvale ME Date of Loss: 01 November 1966 Country of Loss: North Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 204800N 106500E (XJ907009) Status (in 1973): Released POW Category: Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: A4E Refno: Other Personnel in Incident: (none missing) Source: Compiled by Homecoming II Project 30 April 1990 from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK 1998. REMARKS: 730304 RELSD BY DRV SYNOPSIS: The U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (CVA 42) was on Yankee Station in 1966 when the decision was made to unleash American air power on such targets in North Vietnam as the Haiphong Harbor and supply installations in the Hanoi region. The FDR launched many aircraft from its fighter and attack squadrons on these missions. Lt. Allan R. Carpenter was a pilot assigned to Attack Squadron 72 onboard the USS FRANKLIN D.ROOSEVELT. On November 1, 1966, Carpenter launched on a combat mission over the Haiphong region of North Vietnam. Carpenter was leading a flight of three on a missile suppression in support of a vital photo reconnaissance flight in the Haiphong area. While successfully countering a missile attack by aggressively attacking the missile site itself, Lt. Carpenter's aircraft was hit by anti-aircraft artillery fire. He immediately headed for open water, the established emergency procedure, but his aircraft was on fire, and eventually went out of control. Carpenter had no choice but to eject from the crippled aircraft. The area in which he ejected was an area where many fishing boats were located. One of his wingmen was with him until he ejected, while the other went high to contact rescue forces. A valiant effort was made by his wingmen and several other aircraft from the FDR as well as from the USS CONSTELLATION, in an attempt to keep the boats away from Lt. Carpenter until rescue helicopters could arrive. Even though he had already been pulled onto one of the fishing junks, the rescue helicopter continued in toward the boat until it was severely damaged by AAA fire and forced to retire. Two other A4 aircraft were hit by the intense small arms fire from the fishing fleet and the AAA fire located around the harbor. The junk which had Carpenter aboard headed for shore and was seen to beach itself in spite of the strafing and rocking fire from U.S. aircraft. Radio Hanoi subsequently announced the capture of an American pilot. For the next seven years, Carpenter was detained in POW camps in and around Hanoi. On March 4, 1973, during Operation Homecoming, Lt. Carpenter was released. Since the war ended, nearly 10,000 reports relating to Americans missing, prisoner or unaccounted for in Southeast Asia have been received by the U.S. Government. Many authorities who have examined this largely classified information are convinced that hundreds of Americans are still held captive today. These reports are the source of serious distress to many returned American prisoners. They had a code that no one could honorably return unless all of the prisoners returned. Not only that code of honor, but the honor of our country is at stake as long as even one man remains unjustly held. It's time we brought our men home. Allan R. Carpenter was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant Commander during the period he was a prisoner of war. SOURCE: WE CAME HOME copyright 1977 Captain and Mrs. Frederic A Wyatt (USNR Ret), Barbara Powers Wyatt, Editor P.O.W. Publications, 10250 Moorpark St., Toluca Lake, CA 91602 Text is reproduced as found in the original publication (including date and spelling errors). ALLAN R. CARPENTER Lieutenant Commander - United States Navy Shot Down: November 1, 1966 Released: March 4, 1973 I enlisted in the Navy 27 September 1955, received my training at Bainbridge, Norman, Oklahoma, Norfolk and Glynco, then I operated out of Pax River as an airborne radar operator in WV-2's from August 1956. I married the former Carolyn Malone (my high school sweetheart) of Sanford, Maine on 31 August 1957. I went to Olathe, Kansas in October 1958 for Tower and Ground Controlled Approach school, then on to Quonset Point for three years shore duty. Our first two children, April and Wendy, were born during that tour. I competed for assignment to OCS under the old Integration Program, was accepted, and left for Newport, where I served as Company Commander of my company and later, Assistant Battalion Commander before graduation and commissioning on 17 August 1962. I earned my wings on 6 November 1963 in Kingsville, Texas where our son Mark was born. I next went to Naval Justice School at Newport, then on to the A4 RAG, VA-43 at Oceana, as a Fleet Replacement Pilot. I completed RAG training in June 1964 and immediately reported to my new squadron, VA-72 at Oceana, flying the A4E Skyhawk. I became the squadron Legal Officer and Landing Signal Officer trainee. Significant cruises were in the Mediterranean in the fall of 1964 and in the Western Pacific in 1965, both cruises were on the Independence. Our youngest child, Kelly, a girl, was born in early 1965. I finished the 1965 cruise as a fully qualified LSO. I finally dropped my legal duties and moved the family to Jacksonville, Florida in January 1966. After a few training cruises, I shoved off for Vietnam again, this time aboard the Roosevelt. I accumulated about 135 combat missions and almost 1200 hours flight time before I was bagged by flak as I led a flight of three A4's in an attack on a missile site near Haiphong. The date was 1 November 1966. For the next six years and four months the feeling that my wife and children needed me home, safe and sane and the firm conviction that the United States of America would never abandon its prisoners of war sustained me whenever I got to feeling particularly blue. March 4, 1973 has gone into my personal history as the happiest day of my life to date, and one that will be celebrated as my "Re-birthday" from here on out. I have requalified as an aviator, and am presently the Instrument Ground Training Officer of VF-43 the instrument training squadron at Oceana, in addition to being a full-time flight instructor. The children, Carolyn and I have a new house, are well settled and are quickly becoming productive, active members of the new squadron, neighborhood and community. Thanks Americans, for your care and your support over the years. I love you. November 1996 Allan Carpenter retired from the Unites States Navy as a Commander. He and Carolyn live in Virginia.