Richer Family

 

            This section discusses what I have discovered so far about the Richer line of the family. The first part of what follows deals with some “family folk lore” which was passed on to me as I started searching for information about the Richer family. Since I had so little to go on initially, I started with these stories and tried to find what parts of them were true and what parts were myth. Based on factual records which I discuss following this first part, it appears that they were mostly just interesting stories based on a little fact, and quite a bit of fable. I welcome any comments and information to the contrary, since there is always the possibility that some aspects of what I have found from other sources are incorrect.

 

 

FAMILY FOLK LORE ABOUT THE RICHER ANCESTORS

 

            Other than the names, Nelson Richer and Philomene Abar, my father mentioned his grandparents hardly at all to me. I am not sure how much he knew about them. In fact, he seldom mentioned his parents, and most of what I learned about them came from my mother, or in these later years, from what I have found while doing this genealogy research.  From these other sources within my extended family, certain aspects of the Richer family has emerged, but it has been difficult to square them with what I have found in birth and marriage records. However, since separate sources within the family have told somewhat the same story, it is difficult to discount completely the possibility of their accuracy. Here is what I have learned from three of these sources.

 

1. Carol Sholette is my second cousin, whose grandparents were both brother and sister, respectively, of my grandfather and grandmother (i.e. two brothers, Maguire Sholette and Adelord Cholette married two sisters, Mary and Melina Richer.) Carol now lives in the Philadelphia area and has been communicating with me by email for about two years. Based on information from his relatives, he wrote this in a Family Genealogy Journal many years ago:

 

Mary Richer Sholette – born in Ogdensburg, N.Y. Mamere’s mother was Philomena Abar, born 1831 in Montreal, Canada. She married Nelson Richer in Ogdensburg, N.Y. His father was Louis de LaRicher, probably born in France. Louis’ father, my great-great-great-grandfather was also named Louis de La Richer, born in France. He was the Baron d’Orleans, France.

 

2.      Some of the preceding may have been based partly on information from a

letter, dated April 26, 1961, from Ralph Richer of Syracuse (RD#3 Cedarvale

Road, Syracuse 15, NY) to his distant cousin, Gloria McMullen, Carol Sholette's niece, when she was writing a family genealogy as part of a college course.

 

            ...the name Richer is a corruption from the original name DeLaRichey (dit Laflèche). There is also another Richer family but from a different branch (Richer dit Lefotue). Our Great, Great Grandfather was the Baron of D'Orleans. He was survived by one son Louis DeLaRicher (1799 or 1819). Louis DeLaRicher had one son, Nelson Richey. Nelson Richey married Fannie Abarr. ( 1843-1901). They had five children: Henry, Nelson, Mary, Minnie, and William (1864-1949).

William Richer married Mary Louise Paige. They had eight children, Lula, Eva, William, Emma, Ralph (1899), Augustine, Theodore, and John. My grandfather Richer died in 1901 or 1902 and he was about 58 years old. My father was born June 5, 1869. Died Nov 10, 1949. I, Ralph E. Richer, was born Sept 16, 1899. Ogdensburg, NY. I was married to Marion Hokes, Sept 17, 1919 Syracuse, NY...

 

            …During the political upheaval in France, Nelsis or Nelson Louis De La Richey escaped to England. Being a Royalist he was protected by the English Govt. He later was sent to Canada, where he established residence. His first wife died in France. He was survived by one son Nelsis, or Nelson Richey. He re-married and had another son named George.  At that time due to political uncertainties the family was disintegrated. Some went South to Louisiana, but Grandfather Nelson Richey crossed the St. Lawrence River and settled in Northern New England, later came to Ogdensburg and married Fanny Abarr whom he had sent for where she lived in Quebec. He settled down in Ogdensburg, NY and devoted his life as a drayman, hackman, comparable to what a chauffer is today. He raised a large family first living in the third Ward and later moving to the second ward on Pine St.

 

(Note the dates given in the above were written in lightly and not very clearly--therefore, they may be in error.)

 

3.      From Donald Ralph Richer, Sr., the son of Ralph Richer who wrote the above letter, I received this via email on July 20, 1999 through his son, Mark at mricher59@yahoo.com. It gives a somewhat more complete narrative of this family story.

 

This is Donald Richer Sr. …My father was
Ralph Richer. Gloria Sholette was one of our
cousins. My father had seven brothers and three
sisters Theodore, Andrew, Augustine, William, Jack and
Ralph (my father), I can't remember the last brother.
His sisters were Eva, Lou-Lou and Emma. They
subsequently had children and most of the children
became either Catholic Priests or Nuns, in fact I used
to kid them a lot because they were very close to me
in age incidentally I am 76 in age and I would call
them a bunch of Penguins because they were nuns.

My great-great-great-great grandparents came from
France. Their names were Barren Richer de la flesh,
which means "of the flesh". (Richer was pronounced Re
Shea) They were the cousins of Napoleon Bonaparte.
They attempted to assassinate him but because they
were "of the flash" they were not killed but banished
to Ottawa, Canada, which was owned by France at that
time. This is why everyone in Northern Canada speaks
French and the named Richer is very prominent there.
However because of the type of people they were at the
time, some started stealing horses in Ottawa and they
were banished from Ottawa and went into the United
States where they landed in Ogdensburg N.Y. The family
stayed there for many years and the family
expanded to the point where in Ogdensburg, everybody
including the Mayor, the Chief of police and everybody
else was named Richer…

…When they moved down to Syracuse, New York, my
grandfather and his seven sons and three daughters,
had a velvet plaque that was given to the family by
Napoleon, giving them Ottawa. One of my uncles, I
think it was my uncle Andrew who ended up with it but
I'm not sure and there are no traces of it to this day
but it gave them all of what is now Ottawa….
 
Now for your information in the city it of Ottawa there still
stands a castle called the "Richer De La Flesh
Castle". It is probably the castle that was built
back when Napoleon sent them to Ottawa, apparently
this is a magnificent castle. Our descendants were
Barrens of the flesh or of the monarchy…

 

 

            The preceding family lore is certainly fascinating and is specific enough to be true. It would be more credible however, if it were from completely separate sources. Unfortunately, while told in three different places, it is quite likely that there was a single source for it all, and that person may have gotten some of it wrong. I have tried hard to connect my Richer ancestors with the Richer dit Laflèche line, but could not do so, even though I found many individuals with that full name.

 

Instead, what I have found from other sources is that my Richer family appears to be descended from the other branch of Richer’s, namely Richer dit Louvetau, not  Richer dit Laflèche. Narcisse’s father was Joachim, not Louis, and his ancestors moved to Quebec in about 1700, more than 100 years before Napoleon’s time. Furthermore, while some in the family said that the name flèche meant “of the flesh”, meaning related to Napoleon, it actually means “arrow” and was likely a symbol worn by Richer men who were soldiers. Additionally, there is no evidence of a Louis Richer being the Baron d’Orleans in France, although the family may have lived initially in the early city of Chateau Richer, which lies just outside Quebec City on the Isle d’Orleans in the St. Lawrence River.

 

            I will then return to the facts as I have found them from various sources, including published baptismal and marriage records. (Many of these are primary sources, but some are secondary sources, having been copied by others from the original records. A few are tertiary sources, whose reliability is questionable.) In what follows, I will give the sources for the information, and   try to give you a sense of their reliability. Of course, with genealogy, it only takes one wrong name for a parent to make everything else which follows incorrect. While this might be the case in what I show next, I believe that it is the correct genealogy for this family, even though it does contradict the family folklore.

 

 

MELINA RICHER (1878- 1936)

 

            Let’s start with my grandmother, Minnie Richer (pronounced Ree’-she). She was baptized in Notre Dame Church in Ogdensburg, NY on April 9, 1878 (ref LDS microfilm #145079, item 11, p 127) with her name given (in what looks like a mixture of French and Latin) as Melinam Richer, and her parents listed as Narcisco Richer and Philomena Hebert. Her godparents were given as Henricus et Philomena Daoust. Her formal name, then was Melina and her parents were Narcisse Richer (known as Nelson, in English) and Philomena Hébert (or Anglicized to Abar, in many of Ogdensburg’s later generations). Based on the usual custom, this would mean that she was born either on the same day as her baptism, or the day previously, since baptisms were done very soon after birth. My father had listed her birth date as April 8, 1879, so I assume that the month and day were correct but that he was off by one year. Perhaps at some time in her life, she wanted to appear to be one year younger than she was. He had listed her parents’ names as Nelson Richer and Mary Abar.

            Minnie subsequently was confirmed at Notre Dame on June 9, 1889, where she was listed as age 11. (LDS microfilm #1450739. item 1, p70.). Her marriage to Adelord Cholette occurred in that same church on Oct 11, 1878, as witnessed by their fathers, Mathias Cholette and Narcissus Richer (LDS microfilm 1450738, item 12, p 447, M-28).

She subsequently had nine children, the first seven of whom were baptized at Notre Dame Church in Ogdensburg, and the last two in Auburn, NY:

 

1.      Beatrice, baptized Nov 1, 1899

2.      Bernadette, Aug 1, 1901

3.      Adelord, July 29, 1903

4.      Blanche, Aug 28, 1905

5.      Lillian, Jan 22, 1908

6.      William, my father, Jan 26, 1910

7.      Frederick, July 26, 1913

8.      Edgar, May 20, 1919

9.      Eugene, May 7, 1921

 

Minnie died on Feb 14, 1936 and was buried in St. Joseph’s

Cemetery in Auburn, NY. (I can still remember my Dad on each Valentine’s Day reminiscing  about his mother dying on that day.) Her husband, Adelord Cholette died about a year later, on Jan 22, 1937 and is buried next to his wife.

 

 

NARCISSE RICHER (1838 – 1902)

 

 

            Melina Richer’s parents, as listed in her baptismal record were Narcisse Richer and Philomena Hébert. The very early records at Notre Dame Church in Ogdensburg give their marriage date as April 26, 1860. (LDS microfilm 1450738, item 9, p39, M-22). The recorded entry follows (in French, and then my translation):

 

            L’an en Jesus Christ mil huit cent soixante le vingt neuf avril apres avoir

impose une fereture canonique a l’epouse Richer pour s’etre maries a

l’Eglise protestante, j’ai, soussigne beni le mariage du dit Narcisse Richer,

fils majeur de Joachim et de Justine Dodelin, ne a Montreal et domicilis

de cette paroisse d’une jearts et de Philomene Cahien, fille majeure

de Pierre Cahien et de Mari Primou et les ai maires en fare de

l’Eglis Romaine en temoin a Eduoard Garifeg and de Charles Maricau.

 

In the year of our Lord, April 29, 1860, after having

imposed a punishment based on Canon (law) on the Richer wife for having been married in a Protestant church, I, the undersigned bless the marriage of Narcisse Richer,

son, of major age, of Joachim and of Justine Dodelin, born in Montreal and living

in this parish for a (year?) and of Philomene Cahien, daughter, of major age,

of Pierre Cahien and Mary Primou and married them in the site of

the Roman Church witnessed by Edward Garifeg and Charles Maricau.

 

(Note: For some time I was very confused by the use of the name Cahien instead of Abar or Hébert as my father and others in the family had indicated. This was especially confusing since the baptismal records of the children used Cahien in some places and Hébert in others. For a while I even suspected that Narcisse had two wives, Philomene Cahien first, and then Philomene Hébert. However, this was cleared up when I found more documentation that strongly indicated this was the same person, but had two differing names in the records. I subsequently learned that the name Cahien was sometimes used to refer to the Hébert family to denote that they were from Acadia, now Nova Scotia; Cahien being a corruption similar to Cajun, for these people, many of whom subsequently emigrated to Louisiana. In later records at Notre Dame Church, both Hébert and Abar are used for their name and Cahien is missing.)

 

Evidently, the couple was previously married in a Protestant Church in Ogdensburg, or elsewhere. Notre Dame Church was founded shortly before this re-marriage ceremony in April, 1858. Prior to that time, French Canadian couples in Ogdensburg were either married at St. Mary’s Church (which was the Irish church at the time), or in a near-by Episcopal church where they were often made more welcome. Evidently, Narcisse and Philomene were married in this, or some other Protestant Church, although I have not found a record of their actual marriage. (I have been told the Catholic Church often found the woman to be guilty in such a situation rather than both parties.) Recorded at about the same time at Notre Dame Church were the baptisms of their first two sons:

 

1.                  Narcisse Richer, on April 27, 1859, born on Feb 8, 1857, son of Narcisse Richer and Philomene Cahien; godparents: Pierre Cahien and Justine Dodelin. (Note: godparents of first children were often the grandparents, sometimes one of the mother’s parents and one of the father’s, although as shown later, this couple married each other, after their first spouses died).

 

2.                  Henry Richer, also on April 27, 1859, born Jan 21, 1859, son of Narcisse Richer and Philomene Cahien; godparents: Pierre Cahien and Justine Dodelin.

 

More confusion in tracking this family is shown by the following marriage record concerning Narcisse and Philomene’s parents. From Notre Dame Church documents (LDS # 1450738 p91 M-7 for May 8, 1862; shown in the original French and followed by my translation into English.), I found this:

 

le huit mai, apres avoir impose une fereture canonique a l’epouse Cahien Hébert pour d’etre mariés dexanto un ministre protestant j’ai  soussigne beni le mariage de Pierre Cahien Hébert, fils majeur d’André Cahien et d’Arebraug Chaperon, véuf de Marie

Marcil et de Marie Primo, et  de ______ né à St. Constant,

diocèse de Montréal et domicilié de cette paroisse d’un peart et

de Justine Dodelin, filla majeure de François Dodelin et de Marianne Riando

neé à Boucherville, aussi diocèse de Montréal et domicilié de cette

paroisse d’autre parte, et les ai maires en fare de l’Eglisse souisa en presénce de Benjamin Coralian Perey et d’Alexandre Parey.

 

            On May 8, after having imposed a punishment based on Canon (law) on the Cahien Hébert wife for having been married (twice?) by a protestant minister, I, the undersigned bless the marriage of Pierre Cahien Hébert, son (age of majority) of André Cahien and Arebraug Chaperon, widower of Marie Marcil and of Marie Primo, and _______ born at St. Constant, diocese of Montreal and a resident of one part of this parish and

Justine Dodelin, daughter (age of majority) of François Dodelin and Marianne Riando,

born in Boucherville, also in the Montreal diocese and a resident of another part of this

parish, and married them on the site of this souisa(?)  church in the presence of Benjamin Coralian Perey and Alexander Parey.

 

(NOTE 1: utilizing this information, I  looked at the Hébert web site (www.genweb.net~hebert) and found  a reference showing that Marie-Archange Chaperon was married to Andre Hébert and they had a son, Pierre who was married to (1) Marie-Anne Marcille and (2) Marie-Amable Primeau,. Thus, I was able to connect all this together and provide a linkage back to the original Héberts of Port Royal, Acadia.)

 

(NOTE 2: Interestingly, this third marriage of Pierre Cahien Hébert was to Justine Daudelin, who was Pierre's daughter's mother-in-law. Evidently, the two in-laws married each other after their spouses died. Since the notation recorded above seems to imply that this may have been a re-marriage at Notre Dame, it is not clear when this couple was originally married.)

 

            Including the two sons mentioned previously, Narcisse Richer and Philomena Hébert had a total of eight children, with my grandmother, Melina the youngest, and my second cousin, Carol Sholette’s grandmother, Marie Alphonsine, the 5th child. The children were (ref: LDS microfilm 1450738 for births, marriages and baptisms.)

           

1.      Narcisse Richer, born Feb 8, 1857 in Ogdensburg. He likely was a brother in the Catholic Church, taught at Oremo College in Quebec and died in 1905 in Rigeau, Qc. (all according to the Ralph Richer 1961 letter).

2.      Henry Richer, born January 21, 1859 in Ogdensburg, married Melina St. Germaine and had 13 children.

3.      Joachim Richer, born May 30, 1861 in Ogdensburg.

4.      Philomene Richer, baptized Sept 11, 1864 in Ogdensburg

5.      Marie Alphonsine Richer, born May 14, 1867 in Ogdensburg, and married Maglorie Sholette and had three children

6.      William Richer, born June 26, 1870 in Ogdensburg, married Lousia LePage and had nine children

7.      Joseph Richer, baptized June 25, 1872 in Ogdensburg

8.      Melina Richer, born April 8, 1878 in Ogdensburg, married Adelord Cholette and had nine children.

 

The census in Ogdensburg for 1870 (ref. A1) listed Narcisse as Nelson

Ritchie, age 32, which means that he was born in about 1838.  It also lists his wife as Phebe Ritchie, age 29, and children Nelson, age 13, Henry age 11, Mary, age 4 and William, age 1 month.  Joachim and Philomene presumably died in infancy since they were not listed in the census. Likewise, Joseph, who was born after the census may have died in infancy since subsequent family records show no reference to him, or to Joachim or Philomene. (Ref B-1)

 

Narcisse Richer died in Ogdensburg and was buried on Oct 3, 1902 at about age 71. His wife, Philomena died sometime after 1907 in Ogdensburg, perhaps as late as 1918.

 

 

JOACHIM RICHER (1798 – Bef. 1862)

 

As indicate previously, Narcisse Richer’s parents were Joachim Richer and

Justine Daudelin. Their names are given in the marriage record for Narcisse and Philomene at Notre Dame Church in Ogdensburg. In searching for Joachim and Justine’s parents, I utilized a “look-up source” that I found on the web. (Look-ups are done by volunteers who look at published civil and church records as an aid for others doing genealogical research. In Canada, the Catholic records are quite readily available and Joachim’s and Justine’s marriage was found. It helps greatly that these records uniformly use the woman’s married name for all the sacramental records, and that many of the marriage records contain both parents’ names.) From this I found that Joachim Richer and Justine Daudelin were married on Oct 28, 1834 in Notre Dame Church in Montreal, Qc. 13 .

 

            Presumably there were other children besides Narcisse, but I have not yet found a record of them. His father, Joachim, was born Aug 19, 1798 in Pointe Claire. His wife, Justine Daudelin was born Feb 29, 1816 in Boucherville and died Feb 13, 1879. Joachim  must have died before 1862, since that is when Justine was married again, this time to Pierre Hébert, the widower of Marie Primeau and the father of Narcisse’s wife, Philomena Hébert.

 

 

JACQUES RICHER (? - ?)

 

 

From his marriage records, Joachim Richer’s parents were given as Jacques Richer and Marguerite Lefebvre21 who were married on Sept 28, 1795 in Pointe Claire, Qc.22. Jacques Richer21, a journalist25 by occupation, was the son of Joseph-Marie Richer-dit-Louvetau and  Elisabeth-Marie-Isabelle Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur.  He married  Marguerite Lefebvre23, born February 16, 177224.  She was the daughter of  Jean-Baptiste Lefebvre dit Boulanger and  Marie-Françoise Paiement/LaRiviere.

 

     

Children of Jacques Richer and Marguerite Lefebvre:

                    i.           Jacques Richer, born May 29, 1797 in Ste-Genevieve, Pierrefonds, Qc28. He was buried November 07, 1797, Pointe Claire, Qc29

ii. Joachim Richer, born August 19, 1798 in Pointe Claire, Qc; died Bef. 1862; married Justine Daudelin October 28, 1834 in Notre Dame Church, Montreal, Qc.

 

(note: there were probably other children, but my primary source for these records, PRDH, lists baptisms only up though 1799.)

 

    

      The remaining generations of this family are shown below, as compiled from the PRDH references for early Quebec. This source is extremely reliable and lists almost all baptisms, marriages and deaths in Quebec from its initial settlement as New France up through 1799. The initials stand for Programme de Recherche en Démographie Historique and it is located at the U. of Montreal’s web site at: www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/fr/main.htm

 

 

      JOSEPH-MARIE RICHER-DIT-LOUVETAU (1736 - ?)

 

 

      Joseph-Marie Richer-dit-Louvetau40 was born June 27, 1736 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.41.  He was the son of  Jean-Baptiste Richer-dit-Louvetau and  Marie-Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry.  He married  Elisabeth-Marie-Isabelle Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur July 26, 1762 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.42.

        Elisabeth-Marie-Isabelle Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur43 was born March 19, 1746/47 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)44.  She was the daughter of  Jean Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur and  Marie Anne Meloche. She was buried May 27, 1785, Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)45

     

Children of Joseph-Marie Richer-dit-Louvetau and Elisabeth-Marie-Isabelle Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur :

                    i.           Jacques Richer, married Marguerite Lefebvre September 28, 1795 in Pointe Claire, Qc.

                    ii.           Marie Richer47, married Jean Baptiste Boyer January 10, 1786 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.47

                   iii.           Marie-Amable Richer47, married Jean Marie Jerome Beaume Leblanc Latour September 25, 1791 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.47

                   iv.           Joseph Richer48, born September 03, 1763 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)49; married Marguerite Nus-dit-Laventure August 18, 1789 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.50

                   v.           Marie-Elisabeth Richer, born June 20, 1765 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)51

                   vi.           Agathe Richer52, born July 12, 1767 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)53; married Michel Augustin Landremane August 09, 1785 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.54

                  vii.           Marie-Josephe Richer, born October 10, 1770 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)55

                 viii.           Eustache Richer, born August 24, 1774 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)56

                   ix.           Michel Richer, born March 31, 1776 in Pointe Claire, Qc57

                   x.           Francois Amable Richer, born October 14, 1781 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)58

 

     

      JEAN-BAPTISTE RICHER-DIT-LOUVETAU (1705 - ?)

 

 

        Jean-Baptiste Richer-dit-Louvetau74 was born April 18, 1705 in Montreal, Qc75.  He was the son of  Jacques Richer-dit-Louvetau and  Marie Jofrion-dit-St.Jean.  He married  Marie-Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry January 22, 1730/31 in Montreal, Qc.76.

        Marie-Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry77.  She was the daughter of  Henri Jarry-dit-Henrichon-Henry and  Agathe Lapierre-dit-Lecuyer.

 

     

Children of Jean-Baptiste Richer-dit-Louvetau and Marie-Anne Henry:

                    i.           Marie-Amable Richer-dit-Louvetau79, born October 27, 1731 in Montreal, Qc80; died April 12, 1753 in St-Laurent, Qc; married Joseph Dugas-dit-Labreche-Ducas February 26, 1747/48 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.81

                    ii.           Marie-Barbe Richer-dit-Louvetau81, born February 11, 1732/33 in Montreal, Qc82; married Antoine Amable Gauthier-dit-Saguingorra January 10, 1751/52 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.83

                   iii.           Francois Richer-dit-Louvetau83, born October 24, 1734 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.84; married Marie-Madeleine Libersan-dit-Laviolette January 20, 1755 in Ste.-Genevieve (Pierrefonds), Quebec85

                   iv.           Joseph-Marie Richer-dit-Louvetau, born June 27, 1736 in Pointe-Claire, Qc; married Elisabeth-Marie-Isabelle Guittar-dit-LaGrandeur July 26, 1762 in Ste-Geneviève, Pierrefonds, Qc.

                   v.           Jean-Baptiste Richer-dit-Louvetau85, born April 18, 1738 in Pointe Claire, Qc86; married Marie-Francoise Legault-dit-Deslauriers January 08, 1759 in Ste.-Genevieve (Pierrefonds), Quebec87

                   vi.           Joachim Richer-dit-Louvetau87, born July 15, 1739 in Pointe Claire, Qc88; married Marie-Amable Dubois-dit-Laviolette January 28, 1771 in Lachine, Qc.89

                  vii.           Marie-Anne Richer-dit-Louvetau89, born January 13, 1740/41 in Pointe Claire, Qc90; married Jean-Baptiste Fauvel-dit-Bigras October 08, 1764 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.91

                 viii.           Louis Richer-dit-Louvetau, born January 26, 1742/43 in Pointe Claire, Qc92; died February 11, 1742/43 in Pointe Claire, Qc93

                   ix.           Marie-Marguerite Richer-dit-Louvetau94, born September 30, 1744 in Pointe Claire, Qc95; married Charles Couillard November 23, 1767 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.96

                   x.           Marie-Josephe Richer-dit-Louvetau96, born June 14, 1746 in Pointe Claire, Qc97; married Louis Langevin-dit-Lacroix May 30, 1768 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.98

                   xi.           Agathe Richer-dit-Louvetau98, born July 13, 1748 in Pointe Claire, Qc99; married Jean-Baptiste Perillard-dit-Bourguignon February 15, 1768 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.100

                  xii.           Marie-Louise Richer-dit-Louvetau100, born May 08, 1750 in Pointe Claire, Qc101; married Guillaume Bray-dit-St.Pierre February 24, 1772 in Pointe-Claire, Qc.102

                 xiii.           Marie-Amable Richer-dit-Louvetau, born April 10, 1754 in Pointe Claire, Qc103; died July 22, 1754 in Pointe Claire, Qc104

                 xiv.           Pierre Richer-dit-Louvetau, born September 11, 1755 in Pointe Claire, Qc105

 

 

      JACQUES RICHER-DIT-LOUVETAU (About 1664 - ?)

 

 

        Jacques Richer-dit-Louvetau111was born Abt. 1664 in Louvetot, arch. rouen, normandie, (ar. rouen, seine-maritime), France112. He is listed by PRDH as one of the original Pioneers of Quebec115, settling there before the end of the 17th century.  He was the son of  Jacques Richer and  Jacqueline Piri.  He married  Marie Jofrion-dit-St.Jean April 07, 1698 in Montreal, Qc.113.

Marie Jofrion-dit-St.Jean114.  She was the daughter of  Pierre Jofrion-dit-St.Jean and

Marie Briault.

 

     

Children of Jacques Richer-dit-Louvetau and Marie Jofrion-dit-St.Jean:

                    i.           Marie-Anne Richer-dit-Louvetau117, born February 18, 1698/99 in Montreal, Qc118; died March 16, 1738/39 in Riviere-des-Prairies, Qc119; married Jean-Baptiste Joly April 06, 1717 in Riviere-des-Prairies120.

                    ii.           Marie-Josephe Richer-dit-Louvetau, born June 16, 1700 in Montreal, Qc121; died June 19, 1700 in Montreal, Qc122

                   iii.           Jacques Richer-dit-Louvetau, born May 22, 1701 in Montreal, Qc123

                   iv.           Francois Richer-dit-Louvetau124, born October 22, 1702 in Montreal, Qc125; died December 26, 1763 in Montreal, Qc126; married Marie-Anne Brunet-dit-Letang October 18, 1723 in St-Laurent, Qc.127.

                   v.           Marie-Josephe Richer-dit-Louvetau127, born February 22, 1703/04 in Montreal, Qc128; married Pierre Plouf January 11, 1722/23 in St-Laurent, Qc.129.

                   vi.           Jean-Baptiste Richer-dit-Louvetau, born April 18, 1705 in Montreal, Qc; married Marie-Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry January 22, 1730/31 in Montreal, Qc.

                  vii.           Marie-Madeleine Richer-dit-Louvetau, born August 28, 1706 in Montreal, Qc130; died September 01, 1706 in Montreal, Qc131

                 viii.           Michel Richer-dit-Louvetau, born September 28, 1707 in Montreal, Qc132; died July 18, 1717 in Montreal, Qc133

                   ix.           Jean Richer-dit-Louvetau, born November 03, 1708 in Montreal, Qc134; died January 29, 1708/09 in Montreal, Qc135

                   x.           Marie-Madeleine Richer-dit-Louvetau136, born December 11, 1709 in Montreal, Qc137; married Francois-Marie Libersan-dit-Laviolette October 30, 1730 in St-Laurent, Qc.138.

                   xi.           Philippe-Rene Richer-dit-Louvetau, born November 23, 1710 in Montreal, Qc139; died December 14, 1710 in Montreal, Qc140

                  xii.           Unnamed Richer-dit-Louvetau, born November 23, 1710 in Montreal, Qc141; died November 23, 1710 in Montreal, Qc142

                 xiii.           Francoise Richer-dit-Louvetau, born May 08, 1712 in Montreal, Qc143; died December 27, 1714 in Montreal, Qc144

                 xiv.           Marguerite Richer-dit-Louvetau, born May 06, 1713 in Montreal, Qc145; died June 24, 1713 in Montreal, Qc146

                  xv.           Marie-Anne Richer-dit-Louvetau, born January 23, 1714/15 in Montreal, Qc147; died March 01, 1729/30 in Montreal, Qc148

                 xvi.           Charles Augustin Richer-dit-Louvetau, born March 16, 1715/16 in Montreal, Qc149

                xvii.           Marie-Agnes Richer-dit-Louvetau, born September 22, 1718 in Montreal, Qc149; died November 05, 1718 in Montreal, Qc150

 

 

 

      JACQUES RICHER (? - ?)

 

 

        Jacques Richer168 lived his entire life in France.  He married  Jacqueline Piri sometime before 1665169. While they most likely had other children, it was their son Jacques who moved to New France and became the ancestor for all subsequent Richer’s in this family.

     

      Child of Jacques Richer and Jacqueline Piri:

                    i.           Jacques Richer-dit-Louvetau, born Abt. 1664 in Louvetot, arch. rouen, normandie, (ar. rouen, seine-maritime), FRance; married Marie Jofrion-dit-St.Jean April 07, 1698 in Montreal, Qc..

 

 

Endnotes

 

(These were taken from a bibliography referenced to a larger body of data;

 hence many intermediate numbers were not relevant and have been omitted.

References 1-12 refer to the first part of the narrative, but were not

 specifically indicated there)

 

A1. 1870 Census for Ogdensburg, found at Rootsweb, St. Lawrence County web site.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stlawgen/CENSUS/OSWEGATC/CENSINDX.HTM

1.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, Item 11, page 127, "Anno Domini 1878 die 9 April Ego baptizam Melinam Richer ...(parents:) Narcisco Richer et Philomena Hebert. Patrina Henricus et Philomena Daoust."

2.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 9 p39 M-22, this reference gives marriage of Narcisse to Philomena Cahien and indicates that he was from Montreal. A letter from Ralph Richer to his cousin, Gloria (Carol Sholette's niece)  says he was about 58 years old when he died in 1901 or 02. However, this date of about 1843 would make him only a teenager when his sons were born. Other notes in Carol Sholette's files list Narcisse as being born in 1831. they also indicate this was in Ogdensburg, but Im pretty sure that is wrong. A more likely date would be about 1835, a year after his parent's marriage. However, in 1870 Census, he is listed as being 32 years old, meaning he was born about 1838. Used this date. Name in census listed as Nelson Ritchie.

3.  LDS Film # 1450739 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 2 p44 S-62, "Oct 3, 1902 burial of Narcisse Richer, wife: Philomena Hebert."

4.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 9 p39 M-22, English translation: In the year of our Lord, April 29, 1860, after having imposed a punishment based on Canon law on the Richer wife for having a marriage in a Protestant church, I, the undersigned, bless the marriage of Narcisse Richer, oldest son of Joachim and of Justine Dodelin, born in Montreal and living in this parish for a ....(year?)..., and Philomene Cahien, oldest daughter of Pierre Cahien and Mari Primou and marry them in the site of the Roman (Catholic) church, witnessed by Edouard Garifeg and Charles Maricau.Original French version:  L'an en Jesus Christ mil huit cent soixante le vingt neuf avril, apres avoir impose une fermeture canonique a l'espouse Richer pour s'etre maries a l'Eglise protestante, j'ai, soussigne benj le mariage du dit Narcisse Richer, fils majeur de Joachim et de Justine Dodelin, ne a Montreal et domicilis de cette paraisse d'une (....) et de Philomene Cahien, fille majeure de Pierre Cahien et de Mari Primou et les ai maries en face de l'Eglis Romaine en temoin d'Edouard Garifeg et de Charles Maricau.

5.  Personal correspondance from relative, My Genealogy report from Carol Sholette 1998.

6.  April 26, 1961 letter from Ralph Richer to Magloire Sholette, this letter gives a 1901 date, but date of death given as 1918 in other notes from this time period to Carol SholetteI have a post card, dated 1907 which appears to be from her son, Nelson, to his mother living then at 42 David St. Ogdensburg, NY.

7.  see source for date of death.

8.  email from correspondant about Hebert name.

9.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 9 p39 M-22,

10.  see source for son's marriage.

11.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, vital events for couples and individuals Baptism # 658634, shows Jacques Richer, occupation Journalist and Marguerite Lefebvre as parents of Joachim Richer baptized Aug 19, 1798 in Pte Claire; born: Aug 19, 1798. this doesn't prove that it was this Joachim Richer that married Justine Daudelin, but according to Micheline Weston, it was. Her information seems very reliable.

12.  Date based on date of wife's second marriage.

13.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston, based on look-up of genealogy records in Quebec as I requested.

14.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 9 p39 M-22.

15.  See notes under Narcisse Richer.

16.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca (Ghislain Weston), email from Micheline Weston.

17.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, item 11 p161 S-9, Justine Dodelin Feb 15, 1879 was buried , wife of Petre Hébert. Not sure where I got the death date, of Feb 13, but it is likely correct.

18.  Personal correspondance from relative, from Ralph Richer in letter to Carol Sholette's Dad from 1961.

19.  LDS Film # 1450738 Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg,NY, p49 B-41 april 20, 1876, Lists Pierre Hebert and Justine Daudelet as godparents of Pierre Hébert, son of Petra Hébert and Julia Leroux; From seeing lists of Fr.Can names it appears this should actually be Daudelin.

20.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston, see notes under marriage.

21.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston, Her note says she has record of his son's marriage (Joachim Richer to Justine Daudelin) and in it his parents are listed as Jacques Richer and Marguerite Lefebvre. see notes under Jacques Richer for this email, as well as notes under Joachim's marriage. PRDH for the couple Joseph Richer Louvetau and Elisabeth Guittar Lagrandeur shows Jacques as one of their children, and married to Marguerite Lefebvre on Sept 28, 1795 in Pte-Claire. While I was able to find baptismal records for several of their children at PRDH, I could not find one for Jacques.

22.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston, "Jaques Richer, son of Joseph and M. Isabelle Guittare married Sept 28, 1795 in Pointe Claire Quebec Marguerite Lefebvre/Boulanger daughter of Jean Baptiste Lefebvre/Boulanger and Francoise Paiement"; this information is also shown at Lafebvre-L at Rootsweb site, but does not show any children of this marriage.PRDH marriage certificate # 348305 shows this marriage on Sept 28, 1795 in Pte Claire: Jacques Richer married to Marguerite Lefevre Boulanger; in attendance:Josheph Richer, father of groom; Marie Isabelle Guittare, mother of groom; Jean Baptiste Lefevre Boulanger, father of bride; Francoise Paiement, mother of bride; Charles Richer, cousin of groom; Joseph Richer, brother of groom; Francois Fortier brother-in-law or sepbrother of bride. " legitme hier dans la cermonie ordinaire Joachim, ne de la dite epouse et baptise en cette eglise le 29 Aout dernier et reconnu par le dit epoux etre ne de lui."

23.  see source for husband's name.

24.  MMann95492@aol.com (by way of Margaret Olson<olson@rootsweb.com>, Lefebvre-L@rootsweb.com.

25.  see source for child's birth, shown as journalist, in baptism of son, Joachim.

26.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

27.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston, "Jaques Richer, son of Joseph and M. Isabelle Guittare married Sept 28, 1795 in Pointe Claire Quebec Marguerite Lefebvre/Boulanger daughter of Jean Baptiste Lefebvre/Boulanger and Francoise Paiement"; this information is also shown at Lafebvre-L at Rootsweb site, but does not show any children of this marriage.PRDH marriage certificate # 348305 shows this marriage on Sept 28, 1795 in Pte Claire: Jacques Richer married to Marguerite Lefevre Boulanger; in attendance:Josheph Richer, father of groom; Marie Isabelle Guittare, mother of groom; Jean Baptiste Lefevre Boulanger, father of bride; Francoise Paiement, mother of bride; Charles Richer, cousin of groom; Joseph Richer, brother of groom; Francois Fortier brother-in-law or sepbrother of bride. " legitme hier dans la cermonie ordinaire Joachim, ne de la dite epouse et baptise en cette eglise le 29 Aout dernier et reconnu par le dit epoux etre ne de lui."

28.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, shows father and mother's names as well as date of baptism and place.

29.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

40.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston.

41.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

42.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Gives date and place of marraige as well as marriages of all their children before 1800; also gives names of couple's parents.

43.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston.

44.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, obtained this date from summary listing on her name, showing all relevant events in her life, including birth and death.

45.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

46.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Gives date and place of marraige as well as marriages of all their children before 1800; also gives names of couple's parents.

47.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

48.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Marriage record of his brother Jacques shows Joseph richer as brother of Jacques.

49.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 280971, Name: Joseph Hericher, maleBirth: Sept 3, 1763Baptism: Sept 3, 1763 in Ste-GenevieveFather: Joseph Hericher LouvetauMother: Elisabeth GuittardOthers; Francois Marie Leroux and Marie Anne Meloche.

50.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

51.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 281114, Name: Marie Elisabeth Hericher, femaleBirth: June 20, 1765Baptism: June 21, 1765 in Ste-Genevieve (Pierrefonds)Father: Joseph HericherMother: Marie Marguerite Guittar.

52.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

53.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 657138, Name: Agathe Hericher, femaleBirth: July 12, 1767Baptism: July 13, 1767 in Ste-GenevieveFather: Joseph Hericher LouvetauMother: Marie Elisabeth Guittar.

54.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

55.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 657459, Name: Marie Josephe Hericher, femaleBirth: Oct 10, 1770Baptism: Oct 10, 1770 in Ste-GenevieveFather: Joseph HericherMother: Marie Elisabeth Guittard.

56.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 653215, Name: Eustache RicherBirth: Aug 24, 1774 in Pointe-ClaireFather: Joseph RicherMother: Marie Elisabeth Guitard.

57.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 653355, Name: Michel Richer, maleBirth: Mar 31, 1776Baptism: Mar 31, 1776Father: Joseph Richer LouvetauMother: Marie Elisabeth Guitar.

58.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Baptism No. 660838, Name: Francois Amable Hericher, maleBirth: Oct 14, 1781 baptism: Oct 15, 1781 in Ste-GenevieveFather: Joseph HericherMother: Elisabeth Guittard.

59.  email address: gorfou@netcom.ca, email from Micheline Weston.

74.  see source for son's marriage.

75.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

76.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Couple (Family of), Jean Baptiste Richer Louvetau (father: Jacques Richer Louvetau; mother: Marie Jofrion StJean) AND Marie Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry (father: Henri Jarry Henrichon Henry; mother: Agathe Lapierrre Lecuyer) MARRIAGE 1731-01-22 Montreal. Also given names dates of marriage for 11 children who were married prior to 1800.

77.  see source for son's marriage.

78.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Couple (Family of), Jean Baptiste Richer Louvetau (father: Jacques Richer Louvetau; mother: Marie Jofrion StJean) AND Marie Anne Jarry Henrichon Henry (father: Henri Jarry Henrichon Henry; mother: Agathe Lapierrre Lecuyer) MARRIAGE 1731-01-22 Montreal. Also given names dates of marriage for 11 children who were married prior to 1800.

79.  see source for parent's marriage.

80.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 family sheet of parents.

81.  see source for parent's marriage.

82.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 of parents family page.

83.  see source for parent's marriage.

84.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

85.  see source for parent's marriage.

86.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parnets family page.

87.  see source for parent's marriage.

88.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

89.  see source for parent's marriage.

90.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

91.  see source for parent's marriage.

92.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 family page of parents.

93.  see source for date of birth.

94.  see source for parent's marriage.

95.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

96.  see source for parent's marriage.

97.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

98.  see source for parent's marriage.

99.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 family page of parents.

100.  see source for parent's marriage.

101.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

102.  see source for parent's marriage.

103.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 family page of parents.

104.  see source for date of birth.

105.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #17473 parents family page.

111.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Parents names listed for son Jean Baptiste's marriage..

112.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Listed as one of the original Quebec Ancestors, Full place of birth is given as Louvetot, Arch. Rouen Normandie (ar. Rouen, Seine-Maritime).

113.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Couple, family of Jacques Richer Louvetau and Marie Jofrion St. Jean, shows marriage date of April 7, 1698 as well as names of parents of both bride and groom, as well as names of children who were married before 1800 and their spouces names and marriage dates.

114.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, listed on page showing son, Jean Baptiste's marriage.

115.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

116.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, Couple, family of Jacques Richer Louvetau and Marie Jofrion St. Jean, shows marriage date of April 7, 1698 as well as names of parents of both bride and groom, as well as names of children who were married before 1800 and their spouces names and marriage dates.

117.  see source for parent's marriage.

118.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 Family sheet of parents.

119.  see source for date of birth.

120.  see source for parent's marriage.

121.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, # 7996 family page of parents.

122.  see source for date of birth.

123.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

124.  see source for parent's marriage.

125.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

126.  see source for date of birth.

127.  see source for parent's marriage.

128.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

129.  see source for parent's marriage.

130.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

131.  see source for date of birth.

132.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.

133.  see source for date of birth.

134.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

135.  see source for date of birth.

136.  see source for parent's marriage.

137.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

138.  see source for parent's marriage.

139.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7006 family page of parents.

140.  see source for date of birth.

141.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

142.  see source for date of birth.

143.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

144.  see source for date of birth.

145.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family sheet of parents.

146.  see source for child's birth.

147.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 family page of parents.

148.  see source for date of birth.

149.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, #7996 of parents family page.

150.  see source for date of birth.

168.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal, listed under son Jacques' marriage.

169.  www.genealogie.umontreal.ca, Web site of PRDH at U of Montreal.