John Martin Jr (son of John Martin) was born Abt. 1715, and died 1758 in Alexandria, Fairfax Co., VA.
Notes for John Martin Jr: "John Martin II (source Book "Lewis Wetzel" pg. 184-185) Presley Martin told to Sylvester Myers "My grandfather John Martin came to Wheeling from N.J. --- This Presley from another Martin family from Nancy O'Rourke." This was referenced in Documents from Sue Martin. It is believed this may have meant old Fort Henry, at the mouth of Wheeling, Ohio Co., VA (now West Virginia). Also another source by Gene Capelety said Col. Thomas Charles Martin was the son of John Martin II. We will call him John Martin, Jr., hereafter, as there is also a line of descent of seven consecutive John Martin's beginning With John Martin I, born 1546, d. 1570 in Billericay, Essex County, England, the line emigrating to Dover, Strafford Co., New Hampshire, and ending with John Martin VII, born December 22, 1721 in Piscataway, Middlesex, County, New Jersey., of which there is no record of a marriage, or where he went. John Martin VII., therefore could very well be the father of Col. Charles Martin, as adding 17-years to 1722 (December 22, 1721) would be a marriage in 1740, with a possible son Charles born in late 1740 and a Sergeant in the Fairfax Virginia Colonial Militia at age 18. With this possibility, John Martin VII, born December 22, 1721 could actually be the father of Col. Charles Martin, however we would have to revise Col. Charles Martin's birth date from about 1735 to late 1740. As he is already indicated to have married about 1758, a birth date of 1740 would work quite nicely, as it is exactly 18 years from 1740 to 1758. With that perspective, we might also have to change his wife Elizabeth Burris' birth date from 1737 to 1740, which would also work out to a marriage 18-years later in 1758, and possibly change the presumed birth dates of Charles Martins brothers in Fairfax Co., Va. Since there is no record of John Martin VII, after his birth on December 22, 1721 in Piscataway, Middlesex Co., NJ., he may very well have been the John Martin, Jr. we are actually searching for, as he was in fact John Martin, Jr., actually being the seventh consecutive one in succession, versus the second in succession. I somehow believe he may be the actual father of Col. Charles Martin, also known as Thomas Charles Martin. This would match the statement by Presley Martin: "My grandfather John Martin came to Wheeling from New Jersey".
There were three Martin's in the Fairfax County, Virginia Colonial Militia in 1758, Sgt. Charles Martin, Sgt. Jesse Martin and Private Joseph Martin. We presume therefore that Sgt. Charles Martin was the future Col. Charles Martin of Ft. Martin, Crooked Run, Monongalia Co., Virginia, and that Sgt. Jesse Martin was the next brother in line, and private Joseph Martin, was the youngest son. This is a very important record referenced by Mr. Timothy Barrick, indicating that the John Martin, Jr., we are looking for was living in Fairfax County, Virginia in 1758, with three sons Charles, Jesse and Joseph. This is also the basis for listing Col. Charles Martin as being born in Alexandria, Fairfax Co., Virginia, and of Loudoun Co., Virginia directly west of Fairfax Co., Va. The Martin family could have also lived in Greenbrier, Fairfax County, Virginia, where many related families possibly also lived, having found several other families which went to Monongalia County, Virginia as once living in Greenbriar, which is either Greenbrier Co., West Virginia or Greenbrier, Fairfax Co., Virginia, the spelling of Greenbrier being misspelled as Greenbriar. There is no Town of Greenbriar or Greenbriar in West Virginia, only the County of Greenbrier.
Some researchers have indicated John Martin, Jr. to be born about 1715, while others have his son Col. Thomas Charles Martin as born in 1715, however he was most likely born about 1735, or maybe even 1740, and was known or referenced more often as "Col. Charles Martin". Therefore we do not need to assign an exact birth date of 1715 to the mysterious John Martin, Jr., presumed father of Charles. He could have born anywhere from 1709 to 1721.
A Michael Martin was born about 1670 in England, died August 26, 1721 in Charles Co., Maryland. His son was John Martin born March 15, 1691 in Port Tobacco, Charles Co., Maryland, and his son was John Martin, Jr., born 1716 in Port Tobacco, Charles Co., Maryland. His son Allen Martin was born very late in 1767, indicating a second marriage (?). Allen Martin died 1817 in Monongalia Co., Virginia (now West Virginia). Records available on rootsweb.com World Connect Project.
Another possibility is Jonathan Martin born January 12, 1688 in Piscataway, Middlesex Co., New Jersey who married (2) Martha Unknown about 1714 and had son John Martin, born in Piscataway, New Jersey born on May 16, 1715. He also married very late in 1741, indicating a second marriage (?) to Priscilla Unknown. Their children were Benajah Martin b. December 10, 1742, Gideon Martin b. September 7, 1745 and Priscilla Martin b. September 1, 1753. Since he is the son of Jonathan Martin, vs. John Martin, this somewhat negates the possibility. However John Martin born May 16, 1715 was from New Jersey, could have married (1) an unknown wife about 1734 and had children before he married Priscilla about 1741. Thus Col. Charles Martin born about 1735 would fit here perfectly in a first marriage as a presumed son, however John Martin born May 16, 1715 would have had to have been in Fairfax Co., Virginia around 1758. Benajah, Gideon, and Priscilla Martin were all born in Piscataway, Middlesex Co., NJ from 1742 to 1753. This seems to indicate that the John Martin b. May 16, 1715 had probably stayed in New Jersey. In the History of Piscataway and Woodbridge, New Jersey, there are seldom any birth records given after 1730, so those birth dates given from 1742 to 1753 were a rare find.
Charles Wesley Barrick (1857-1919) born in Barracksville, Virginia (now West Virginia) married Presley Neville Martin's grand-daughter Gertrude Florence McCabe (1857-1938) born in New Martinsville, Virginia (now West Virginia). C.W. Barrick did a genealogy study entitled "Martins and Barricks Genealogy", in the early to mid 1930's. He finished his work in 1937. It was expanded upon by some of his grandchildren. He had stated that Charles Martin (1715-1790) was a friend of Lord Neville from England who had settled on Neville Island, Allegheny Co., PA., near Pittsburgh, PA. consequently the middle names of Presley Neville Martin and Charles Neville Martin. Presley Neville Martin born July 4, 1779 is credited with being the founder of New Martinsville, Virginia (now New Martinsville, Wetzel Co., West Virginia). C.W. Barrick stated that Charles Martin could possibly have been born in England and migrated to the Colonies well prior to the Revolutionary War. However, if he was a friend of Lord Neville they no doubt met in Virginia given the age, birth date, and places of birth of Charles Martins children. C.W. Barrick said in his research that Col. Charles Martins father was John Martin II (1652-1730), born in Loose, Salts, England and his mother was Sibylla Michelborne of Loose, England and Leed's Castle. C.W. Barrick said John Martins (II) father was John Martin (I), husband of a daughter of Lord Fairfax, but of vicinity of Loose. John's father was Richard Martyn, died about 1643 and was married to Joan Buffkin. Leed's Castle came to the Martins through he relationship of the Martins to the Buffkins. This record courtesy of Mr. Timothy Barrick, a descendant.
The John Martin (II) (actually no number, was Rev. John Martin b. 1652 in Staniner, near Lewes, Sussex Co., England who inherited from his Maternal Uncle Ralph Bufkin the Manor of Salts' Place, Village of Loose, south of Maidstone, Kent Co., England. He died June 7, 1730. His parents were Richard Martin and Joan Bufkin, daughter of Ralph Bufkin, who married Anne Berners. Rev. John Martin married Sybylla Michelborne born 1646, died May 30, 1724, and her descendancy is unknown. Their only recorded son was Denny Martin born 1695 who married Frances Fairfax, c. November 19, 1703 in Leed's Castle, Denton Otley, Yorkshire, England, of Bromfield. Catherine Fairfax was the daughter of Thomas (Lord) Fairfax V, c. April 16, 1657, Bolton Percy, N. York, England and Catherine (Lady) Culpeper born about 1661 in Hollingborne, Kent, England. Denny Martin was born 1695 when his mother Sybylla (Michelborne) Martin was age 49. They could not have had John Martin (II) born in 1715, as Sybylla would have been age 69. Denny Martin through his wife Catherine Fairfax inherited Leed's Castle, and had five sons of whom none ever married: 1. Edward Martin c. March 24, 1723 became a Major in the British Army, John Martin c. August 30, 1724 of the British Royal Navy, d. 1746 in Portsmouth, Hampshire Co., England at age 22. 2. Denny Martin, Jr., c. September 26, 1725 changed his name to Lord Fairfax legally in order to inherit Leed's Castle and became Lord Fairfax VIII, succeeding Robert (Lord) Fairfax VII. 3. Thomas Bryan Martin c. April 11, 1731 was the only one to come to America. He was a colleague of George Washington, a Burgess for Hampshire Co., VA (now WV). died 1795 in Frederick Co., Va (now Clark Co., VA), and there is a monument to him in Martinsburg, West Virginia. 5. Phillip Martin, c. August 12, 1733, became a Major General. All the owners of Leeds Castle are well documented on the internet. You can find the website by just typing in "Leed's Castle". Therefore Charles Wesley Barrick's theory of John Martin (II) has been proved wrong. C.W. Barrick did not have the internet and communications ability that we have today to get better information. He did however offer a fine work, and has offered several clues to go by which may lead to further discoveries, the best one being Lord Presley Neville.
The father of Col. Charles Martin born about 1735 is a mystery, and after researching all of the Martin's born in Piscataway, New Jersey., etc., and those of New Hampshire, other areas and England, it still can not be determined just which John Martin, Jr., was probably his father, and I hesitate to hook him to any of the ones mentioned. From research gathered, it does appear that Col. Charles Martin was probably born in Alexandria, Fairfax Co., Virginia, and lived in Loudoun Co., Virginia before migrating about 1768 to West Augusta Co., Virginia, which became Monongalia Co., Virginia in 1776 and as the new state of West Virginia in 1863. He is said to have built Ft. Martin in 1769, which is along Crooked Run, or Crooked Brook near the Pennsylvania State line in Cass District, Monongalia County, West Virginia. A great many Martin's have been put on Rootsweb.com World Connect Project from this research. The interest in the Martin Family was in their connections to the John Snider Family of Monongalia Co., West Virginia. A great deal of research on the Martin's, Morgan's, Scotts, Evan's, Everley's, and Well's families was done in the hope of finding new leads to when and where certain members of the Snider Family were born. This has resulted in finding a lot of new information concerning places of origin of many families, resulting in many corrections and everything is being recorded on rootsweb.com in this database. As a result of research into the Stillians, Stallings & Deane family records of Dorchester Co., Maryland, I have discovered a whole new set of Martins who were in the Isle of Kent, Maryland on April 5, 1652 which includes Thomas South, Robert Martin, Henry Morgan and John Dean. Also Captain Nicholas Martin of the Isle of Kent, was in the Legislature or Assembly of Virginia, and had something to do with the St. Mary's settlement, which became St. Mary's County, Maryland formed in 1637. So this has opened up a whole new can of worms !
Sincerely, Mel Gapen, Lakeside, San Diego Co., CA, descended from Stephen Gapen b. May 29, 1761 and Rebecca Snider b. April 17, 1788.