Descendants of William Bates Generation No. 1 1. William1 Bates1. He married Sarah Elliot 8 May 1806 in Tilsworth, Bedfordshire, daughter of Elias Elliot and Elizabeth Kempson. She was born 17872. Notes for William Bates: From the IGI Tilsworth Batch William Bates marries Sopha Cook, 13th May 1817. A second marriage? A William Bates and Sophia on the 1841 census two households away from the Randall family More About Sarah Elliot: Baptism: 7 January 1787, Tilsworth Burial: 1 January 1818, Tilsworth Children of William Bates and Sarah Elliot are: + 2 i. Mary Ann2 Bates, born 1809 in Tilsworth. + 3 ii. Thomas Bates, born Bet. 1812 - 1813 in Tilsworth, Bedfordshire; died Bet. April 1871 - April 1881. Generation No. 2 2. Mary Ann2 Bates (William1)3 was born 1809 in Tilsworth3. She married William Randall 29 March 1835 in Tilsworth. He was born Abt. 1806 in Tilsworth. Notes for Mary Ann Bates: MARY ANN BATES Christening: 13 MAY 1809 Tilsworth, Bedford, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BATES Mother: SARAH More About Mary Ann Bates: Christening: 13 May 1809, Tilsworth3 Notes for William Randall: 1851 Census Tilsworth William Randall Head M 45 Ag Lab Tilsworth Mary Randall Wife M 42 Tilsworth Sarah Randall Dau U 13 Straw Plaiter Tilsworth Delilah Randall Dau 5 Tilsworth Ezra Randall Son 1 Tilsworth Children of Mary Bates and William Randall are: 4 i. Sarah3 Randall, born 1839. Notes for Sarah Randall: Births Jun 1839 Randall Sarah Woburn 6 117 5 ii. Delilah Randall, born 1845. Notes for Delilah Randall: Births Jun 1845 RANDALL Delilah Woburn 6 107 6 iii. Ezra Randall, born 1849. Notes for Ezra Randall: Births Sep 1849 RANDALL Ezra Woburn 6 109 3. Thomas2 Bates (William1)3 was born Bet. 1812 - 1813 in Tilsworth, Bedfordshire3, and died Bet. April 1871 - April 18813. He married Anne. She was born Abt. 1812 in Leighton Buzzard, and died Aft. April 1891. Notes for Thomas Bates: Society of Genealogist's Library TILSWORTH : C 1813-1938, M 1813-1924, B 1813-74, banns 1801-1921 [Microfiche.] 1 TILSWORTH : CMB 1602-40, 1651-1812, banns 1754-1804: Bedfordshire parish registers, vol. 33 THOMAS BATES Christening: 03 JAN 1813 Tilsworth, Bedford, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BATES Mother: SARAH 1841 Census Tilsworth Thomas Bates 25 Ag Lab Y Ann Bates 25 Y Matthew Bates 6 Y Mary Bates 2 Y 1851 Census The Village, Leighton Buzzard Thomas Bates Head M 38 Gardener Beds, Tilsworth Ann Bates Wife M 39 Beds, Leighton Buzzard Matthew Bates Son 15 Scholar Beds, Tilsworth David Bates Son 7 Scholar Beds, Tilsworth 1861 Census Hampton Road, Twickenham Thomas Bates Head M 47 Farm Bailiff Beds, Tilsworth Ann Bates Wife M 49 Beds, Leighton Buzzard 1871 Census Pope's Grove Farm (?) Thomas Bates Head M 58 Farm Bailiff Beds, Tilsworth Ann Bates Wife M 57 Beds, Leighton Buzzard David Bates Son U 27 Carpenter Beds, Tilsworth Emma Bates G Dau U 14 Dressmaker Beds, Eggington More About Thomas Bates: Christening: 3 January 1813, Tilsworth3 Occupation: Farm Bailiff3 Notes for Anne: LEIGHTON BUZZARD : C 1562-1616, 1621-22, 1653-1812, M 1562-1616, 1654-1812, B 1562-1616, 1653-1812, banns 1806-12: Bedfordshire parish registers, vol. 31 & vol. 32 [Typescript.] 1 LEIGHTON BUZZARD : C 1731-54, MB 1722-53, addenda to vols. 31 & 32: Bedfordshire parish registers, vol. 33 1 LEIGHTON BUZZARD (All Saints) : C 1813-1908, M 1806-1900, B 1813-84, banns 1806-27, 1841-88 [Microfiche.] 1 LEIGHTON BUZZARD (All Saints) : C 1813-1908, M 1806-1902, B 1813-1963 [Microfiche.] 1 1881 Census Dwelling: Popes Grove Farm Census Place: Twickenham, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341326 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1343 Folio 20 Page 33 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Ann BATES W 70 F Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England Rel: Head Harry BATES U 18 M Twickenham, Middlesex, England Rel: Grandson Occ: Gardener (Market) Thomas GRAY U 20 M Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Gardener (Market) Children of Thomas Bates and Anne are: + 7 i. William3 Bates, born 1832 in Tilsworth or Northill. + 8 ii. Matthew Bates, born 1835 in Tilsworth, Bedfordshire; died 1905. 9 iii. Mary Bates, born Abt. 18394. 10 iv. David Bates5, born Abt. 1844 in Tilsworth6. He married Elizabeth7; born Abt. 1845 in Blandford, Dorset7. Notes for David Bates: Births Sep 1843 Bates David Woburn 6 107 1861 Census 12 Francis Street, Chelsea William Bates Lodger M 28 Painter Beds, Northill David Bates Lodger U 17 Joiner Beds, Tilsworth 1871 Census Pope's Grove Farm (?) Thomas Bates Head M 58 Farm Bailiff Beds, Tilsworth Ann Bates Wife M 57 Beds, Leighton Buzzard David Bates Son U 27 Carpenter Beds, Tilsworth Emma Bates G Dau U 14 Dressmaker Beds, Eggington 1881 Census Dwelling: 7 Selwood Terrace Census Place: Kensington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341010 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0045 Folio 58 Page 54 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David BATES M 36 M Bedford, England Rel: Head Occ: Carpenter Elizabeth BATES M 37 F Blandford, Dorset, England Rel: Wife Reginald COURTNEY U 9 M Brixton, Middlesex, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Granville S. MADDISON U 21 M Durham, England Rel: Lodger 1891 Census, searched and could not find Generation No. 3 7. William3 Bates (Thomas2, William1)7 was born 1832 in Tilsworth or Northill8,9. He married (1) Betsy. She was born Abt. 1839. He married (2) Deborah Baker 27 March 1855 in Eggington, daughter of William Baker and Rebecca Juffurd. She was born Abt. 1834 in Eggington, Bedfordshire. Notes for William Bates: NORTHILL : C 1813-1909, M 1813-1907, B 1813-1918 [Microfiche.] Published Bedford : Bedfordshire County Record Office, 1998 Acc. no. 92796 Location Apply to library staff Shelf mark BE/REG/92796/1-34 1861 Census 12 Francis Street, Chelsea William Bates Lodger M 28 Painter Beds, Northill David Bates Lodger U 17 Joiner Beds, Tilsworth 1871 Census 42 Camera Square, St Luke, Chelsea William Bates Head M 38 Painter and Glazier Beds, Northill? Betsy Bates Wife M 32 Beds Charles W Bates Son 12 Sawmill Boy Beds, Eggington Mary Bates Dau 10 Scholar Midd, Twickenham Harry Bates Son 8 Scholar Midd, Twickenham David Bates Son 3 Chelsea Tom Bates Son 1 Chelsea George Tebbey Son in law 12 Errand Boy Leighton Buzzard 1881 Census Dwelling: 5 Thistle Grove Lane Census Place: Kensington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341010 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0045 Folio 86 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William BATES M 48 M Norkil, Buckingham, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter Betsey BATES M 42 F Dunstable, Bedford, England Rel: Wife Occ: Painters Wife George TEBBEY U 22 M Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England Rel: Stepson Occ: Engineer Artz David BATES U 13 M Chelsea Rel: Son Tom BATES U 11 M Chelsea Rel: Son Edward COX U 15 M Oxford, England Rel: Boarders Occ: Carpenter More About William Bates: Christening: 1 July 1832, Tilsworth9 Notes for Betsy: Betsey b abt 1839, 2nd wife of William Bates. She could be Elizabeth Tebbey b abt 1839 Dunstable. She obviously came to William with her son George Tebbey seen in 1871 & 18881 census Notes for Deborah Baker: EGGINGTON : C 1813-1920, M 1844-1914, B 1813-66 [Microfiche.] DEBORAH BAKER Birth: Christening: 10 AUG 1834 Eggington, Bedford, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BAKER Mother: REBECCA 1861 Census Hampton Road, Twickenham Deborah Bates Wife M 27 Eggington, Beds Emma Bates Dau 4 Eggington, Beds Charles Bates Son 2 Eggington, Beds Mary Bates Dau 4m Twickenham, Middlesex Deaths Dec 1866 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BATES Deborah 32 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 187 Marriage Notes for William Bates and Deborah Baker: Marriages Mar 1855 BAKER Deborah Leighton B 3b 489 Bates William Leighton Buzzard 3b 489 WILLIAM BATES Father: THOMAS BATES Marriage: Spouse: DEBORAH BAKER Marriage: 27 MAR 1855 Eggington, Bedford, England Children of William Bates and Betsy are: 11 i. David4 Bates, born Abt. 1868. 12 ii. Tom Bates, born Abt. 1870 in Chelsea. Children of William Bates and Deborah Baker are: + 13 i. Emma Baker4 Bates, born 1857. 14 ii. Charles Bates, born Abt. 1859. He married Emma. Notes for Charles Bates: WILLM CHARLES BATES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUN 1858 Eggington, Bedford, England 1881 Census Dwelling: 52 Blantyre St Census Place: Chelsea, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341017 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0075 Folio 96 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Emma NORRIS W 40 F Windsor, Berkshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Laundress Emily NORRIS U 19 F Fulham, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Sarah NORRIS 6 F Fulham, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Martha NORRIS 3 F Chelsea, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Charles BULES OR BRILES U 22 M Eggington, Bedford, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Joiner We think that the Bules etc should read Bates, occupation, birthplace and age correct 15 iii. Mary Bates, born 1860. 16 iv. Harry Bates, born Abt. 1863. 8. Matthew3 Bates (Thomas2, William1)9 was born 1835 in Tilsworth, Bedfordshire10,11, and died 1905. He married Mary Anne Caroline Daly 3 May 1857 in Old Church, St Pancras, London11, daughter of Willam Daly and Caroline. She was born Abt. 1835 in London. Notes for Matthew Bates: 1861 Census 12 Francis Street, Chelsea Matthew Bates Head M 25 Joiner Tilsworth, Beds Mary A Bates Wife M 26 Middx, St Pancras Francis T M Bates Son U 2 Middx, Shoreditch Emily D Bates Dau 10m Chelsea Living in same house William Bates Lodger M 28 Painter Beds, Northill David Bates Lodger U 17 Joiner Beds, Tilsworth 1871 Census 63 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, London Matthew Bates Head M 39 Carpenter Tilsworth, Bedford Mary Ann Caroline Bates Wife M 38 Middlesex, St James Francis Thomas Matthew Bates Son U 13 Scholar London, Hoxton Emily Daley Bates Dau 11 Scholar Middlesex, Chelsea Arthur Bates Son 6 Scholar Middlesex, Chelsea Baby Son 3w Middlesex, Chelsea Sarah Crowder Visitor U 59 Cook out of employ Cheshire, Park Gate 1881 Census 63 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, London Matthew Bates Head M 45 Clerk of Works, Builder Tilsworth, Bedford Mary Ann Caroline Bates Wife M 46 London Francis Thomas Matthew Bates Son U 23 Clerk Timber Merchant London Arthur Edwin Bates Son U 16 Carpenter's Apprentice London Albert Edward Bates Son 10 Scholar London 1891 Census No 8 Florence Lane, Teddington Matthew Bates Head M 55 Builder and House Agent Tilsworth, Beds Mary Ann Bates Wife M 56 London, St James Albert E Bates Son S 20 Painter and Decorator Chelsea, London Albert E Bates Grandson 5 Brayston (?) London Albert E Bates December Quarter 1885 1d 528 Deaths Dec 1905 Bates Matthew 70 Kingston 2a 257 More About Matthew Bates: Christening: 24 May 1835, Tilsworth11 Occupation: Carpenter, Clerk of Works11 Other-Begin: 24 January 1887, At the time of his son's marriage his occupation was given as builder.11 Notes for Mary Anne Caroline Daly: Children of Matthew Bates and Mary Daly are: 17 i. Francis Thomas Matthew4 Bates11, born Abt. 1858 in Hoxton, London12,13. Notes for Francis Thomas Matthew Bates: 1891 Census Francis T M Bates Boarder M 33 Builder's Clerk London, Hoxton[Helen's Family .FTW] 1891 Census Francis T M Bates Boarder M 33 Builder's Clerk London, Hoxton More About Francis Thomas Matthew Bates: Occupation: Clerk Timber Merchant13 18 ii. Emily Daley Bates13, born Abt. 186014. + 19 iii. Arthur Edwin Bates, born 8 September 1864 in Chelsea; died 10 July 1910 in Union Infirmary, Isleworth. 20 iv. Albert Edward Bates15, born Abt. 187116. Generation No. 4 13. Emma Baker4 Bates (William3, Thomas2, William1) was born 1857. She married Clement A Cleaver. He was born 1858 in Dunstable. Notes for Emma Baker Bates: EMMA BAKER BATES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 29 JUN 1855 Eggington, Bedford, England Children of Emma Bates and Clement Cleaver are: 21 i. Ethel Clara5 Cleaver, born 1881. 22 ii. Alice Maud Cleaver, born 1884. 23 iii. Florence Ida Cleaver, born 1886. 24 iv. William Charles Cleaver, born 1887. 25 v. Lilian Primrose Cleaver, born 1890. 19. Arthur Edwin4 Bates (Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)17 was born 8 September 1864 in Chelsea18,19, and died 10 July 1910 in Union Infirmary, Isleworth19. He married Margaret Tomlins19 24 January 1887 in Brentford, London20, daughter of Henry Tomlins and Sarah Seward. She was born 22 November 1865 in Great Stanmore, London20,21. Notes for Arthur Edwin Bates: 1881 Census 63 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea Matthew Bates Head M 45 Clerk of Works Builder Tilsworth, Bedford Mary Ann Caroline Bates Wife M 46 London Francis Thomas Matthew Bates Son U 23 Clerk Timber Merchant London Arthur Edwin Bates Son U 16 Carpenter's Apprentice London Albert Edward Bates Son 10 Scholar London 1891 Census 6 Fulwell Terrace, Teddington Arthur Bates Head M 26 Carpenter Chelsea, Middlesex Margaret Bates Wife M 25 Stanmore, Middlesex Florence Bates Dau 3 Teddington, Middlesex Harold Bates Son 2 Teddington, Middlesex Robert Bates Son 7m Teddington, Middlesex Cannot find in 1901 census Have also checked address 7 Bayham Road and the family were not living there then. More About Arthur Edwin Bates: Birth Registered: 11 October 1864, Father21 Christened: 1 Prospect Place21 Occupation: Carpenter21 Notes for Margaret Tomlins: 1881 Census 3 Park Terrace, Hanwell, Middlesex Sarah E Baker Head 35 U Teacher London Maria A Sandwell Boarder 36 U Teacher Streatham Nellie A Rose Boarder 16 U Scholar Brighton Margaret Tomlins Serv 16 U Dom Serv Gt Stanmore Possible Death Certificate: Deaths Dec 1929 Bates Margaret 61 Brentford 3a 186 More About Margaret Tomlins: Occupation: Domestic Servant21 Children of Arthur Bates and Margaret Tomlins are: + 26 i. Harriet Florence5 Bates, born 10 June 1887 in London; died 19 September 1929 in London. + 27 ii. Harold Roland Bates, born 1889 in Teddington. 28 iii. Robert Bates, born 1891 in Teddington; died 1894 in Teddington. Notes for Robert Bates: Births Mar 1891 Bates Robert Richard Kingston 2a 372 Deaths Dec 1894 Bates Robert Richard 4 Kingston 2a 212 + 29 iv. Violet Bates, born 14 February 1893; died 17 January 1984 in Ealing, London. 30 v. Percy Bates, born 1896. He married Elizabeth. Notes for Percy Bates: Births Mar 1896 Bates Percy Kingston 2a 369 + 31 vi. Margaret Daisy Bates, born Bet. 1898 - 1899. + 32 vii. Arthur Jack Bates, born 11 December 1899. 33 viii. Edward Bates, born 18 May 190122. He married Dorothy. Notes for Edward Bates: Births Sep 1903 Bates Edward Ernest Brentford 3a 118 34 ix. Reginald Bates, born 1907. He married May. Notes for Reginald Bates: Possibility Births Jun 1907 BATES Reginald Joseph Brentford 3a 90 Generation No. 5 26. Harriet Florence5 Bates (Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1) was born 10 June 1887 in London, and died 19 September 1929 in London23. She married Robert Loudoun23 18 April 1925 in Brentford, London, son of David Loudoun and Margaret Plumtree. He was born 15 May 1889 in Newmilns, Ayrshire23, and died 14 April 1931 in Holborn, London23. Notes for Harriet Florence Bates: Births Dec 1887 Bates Harriet Florence Kingston 2a 36_ More About Harriet Florence Bates: AKA (2): She was known by her middle name of Florence.23 Cause of Death: Lobar Pneumonia23 Christened: 6 October 1887, Windsor Road, Teddington.23 Medical Information: No Post Mortem. Certified by E.S. Fossey23 Registered Death: 20 September 1929, Her death was registered by her husband.23 Time&Place Died: 30 Twickenham Road, Isleworth, London She did not die at home.23 Notes for Robert Loudoun: Over the years Robert seems to have had many occupations. Life seems to have been a downward slope for him! Family members tell me that he was an officer in the First World War, in either the Black Watch or London and Scottish Regiment. On his first marriage certificate, in 1910, Robert's occupation was given as a Master Grocer. On the death certificate of his first wife his occupation was given as General Labourer. On his first son's birth certificate and subsequently on his second marriage certificate his occupation was given as Commercial Traveller. On his death certificate his occupation was given as house painter. On his death certificate his address was given as 7 Bayham Road, Ealing, London. More About Robert Loudoun: Cause of Death: Tuberculous Disease of the lungs Paraplegia Polyneuritis23 Christened: Drygate Street at 2.30 p.m.23 Medical Information: Post Mortem. Certified by Douglas N Buchanan MB23 Occupation: Master Grocer, aTravelling Salesman, and a General Labourer23 Registered Death: 21 April 1931, Lady Superintendant of the Hospital.23 Time&Place Died: National Hospital, Queen Square, London23 Children of Harriet Bates and Robert Loudoun are: + 35 i. Robert MacKenzie6 Loudoun, born 2 February 1925 in Windsor. + 36 ii. Harold Percival Loudoun, born 22 February 1926 in Brentford, London. 37 iii. David Peter Andrew Loudoun23, born 25 December 1927 in Brentford, London23; died 3 May 1997 in Greenwich, London23. 27. Harold Roland5 Bates (Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1) was born 1889 in Teddington. He married Elizabeth Collett23 1914 in Camberwell Registration District. Notes for Harold Roland Bates: Births Mar 1889 Bates Harold Roland Kingston 2a 377 Marriage Notes for Harold Bates and Elizabeth Collett: Marriages Jun 1914 Bates Harold R Collett Camberwell 1d 1685 Have found this birth as well, and wonder if it could be part of the family Births Jun 1920 Bates Alfred E T Collett Brentford 3a 462 Children of Harold Bates and Elizabeth Collett are: + 38 i. Harold Arthur6 Bates, born 1914. 39 ii. Grace Bates23, born 191723. Notes for Grace Bates: Births Jun 1917 Bates Grace M E Cellett Camberwell 1d 1396 40 iii. Frederick R Bates, born 1922. Notes for Frederick R Bates: Births Sep 1922 Bates Frederick R Collett Greenwich 1d 1694 Bates Percy R Collett Greenwich 1d 1695 41 iv. Percy R Bates23, born 1922 in Greenwich23; died 1936 in Camberwell23. Notes for Percy R Bates: Births Sep 1922 Bates Frederick R Collett Greenwich 1d 1694 Bates Percy R Collett Greenwich 1d 1695 Died as the result of a hit and run accident - he was cycling and the car hit him but did not stop 42 v. Douglas R Bates23, born 1924 in Greenwich23; died 1942 in Lewisham23. Notes for Douglas R Bates: Births Sep 1924 Bates Douglas R Collett Greenwich 1d 1556 Died of 'Galloping Consumption' 43 vi. Ernest Raymond Bates23, born 5 July 193023; died November 2001 in Canterbury Registration District. Notes for Ernest Raymond Bates: Death Certificate Information Ernest Raymond Bates 5 Jul 1930 Nov 2001 71 Canterbury Kent 29. Violet5 Bates (Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1) was born 14 February 1893, and died 17 January 1984 in Ealing, London23. She married Alfred William Gray23 11 March 1911 in Ealing, London, son of ? Gray. Notes for Violet Bates: Births Jun 1893 Bates Violet Kingston 2a 365 Children of Violet Bates and Alfred Gray are: + 44 i. Leonard P6 Gray, born 1912; died Bet. 1980 - 1990. 45 ii. Vera M L Gray23, born 1914; died Bef. 199723. Notes for Vera M L Gray: Births Mar 1914 GRAY Vera M L Bates Brentford 3a 297 More About Vera M L Gray: Other-Begin: Unmarried23 46 iii. Roland W R P Gray23, born 1916. He married Flora Oliver23. Notes for Roland W R P Gray: Births Jun 1916 Gray Roland W R P Bates Brentford 3a 250 47 iv. Denis Arthur Gray23, born 1918; died 1994. Notes for Denis Arthur Gray: Births Sep 1918 Gray Denis A Bates Brentford 3a 233 Death Name: Denis Arthur Gray Birth Date: 30 Jul 1918 Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1994 Age at death (estimated): 76 Registration district: Ealing Inferred County: London Register number: C29D District and Subdistrict: 2261C Entry Number: 150 More About Denis Arthur Gray: Other-Begin: Unmarried23 48 v. Edward M Gray23, born 1920. Notes for Edward M Gray: Births Dec 1920 Gray Edward M Bates Brentford 3a 288 More About Edward M Gray: Other-Begin: Died aged 7 years23 + 49 vi. Kenneth G Gray, born 1923. + 50 vii. Raymond G Gray, born 25 February 1925. 51 viii. William M Gray23, born 1926. Notes for William M Gray: Births Dec 1926 Gray William M Bates Brentford 3a 253 More About William M Gray: Other-Begin: Died aged 9 months23 + 52 ix. Pamela Doreen Violet Gray, born 25 March 1928. + 53 x. Monica Victoria Gray, born 1931. 54 xi. Valerie Poppy Gray23, born Aft. 1931. She married Derek Colley23. 31. Margaret Daisy5 Bates (Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1) was born Bet. 1898 - 1899. She married (2) Harold C Mountstephen23 1928 in Brentford Registration District. Notes for Margaret Daisy Bates: Births Mar 1899 Bates Margaret Daisy Richmond, S. 2a 428 More About Harold C Mountstephen: AKA (2): Monty23 Marriage Notes for Margaret Bates and Harold Mountstephen: Marriages Jun 1928 BATES Margaret D Mountstephen Brentford 3a 508 Child of Margaret Daisy Bates is: 55 i. Reginald6 Bates, born 191824. Notes for Reginald Bates: Births Mar 1918 Bates Reginald H Bates Brentford 3a 233 Children of Margaret Bates and Harold Mountstephen are: 56 i. Betty6 Mountstephen24. 57 ii. Maureen Mountstephen24. 32. Arthur Jack5 Bates (Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1) was born 11 December 1899. He married Elsie Pretoria Hughes 1921 in Brentford Registration District, daughter of Arthur Hughes and Ellen Jermy. She was born 4 June 1900, and died 11 February 1985. Notes for Arthur Jack Bates: Births Mar 1900 Bates Arthur Jack Brentford 3a 82 More About Elsie Pretoria Hughes: Cause of Death: Breast Cancer Children of Arthur Bates and Elsie Hughes are: 58 i. Vera Elsie6 Bates, born 22 July 1921. Notes for Vera Elsie Bates: Births Sep 1921 Bates Vera E Hughes Brentford 3a 292 59 ii. Frederick Arthur Bates25, born 18 December 1923; died 2 July 2000. Notes for Frederick Arthur Bates: Births Mar 1923 Bates Frederick A Hughes Brentford 3a 226 60 iii. Beryl Margaret Bates, born 13 February 1925. Notes for Beryl Margaret Bates: Births Mar 1925 Bates Beryl M Hughes Brentford 3a 253 61 iv. Henry Walter Bates, born 2 March 1927. 62 v. John Derek Bates25, born 19 April 1929. Notes for John Derek Bates: Births Jun 1929 Bates John D Hughes Brentford 3a 303 Bates Peter S Hughes Brentford 3a 302 63 vi. Peter Stanley Bates, born 19 April 1929. 64 vii. Patricia June Bates, born 25 October 1931; died May 1933. 65 viii. William George Bates, born 7 March 1935. 66 ix. Rita Bates25, born 21 June 1941. Generation No. 6 35. Robert MacKenzie6 Loudoun (Harriet Florence5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 2 February 1925 in Windsor25. He married Dorothy Crawford Perkins25 4 April 1954 in Brockley, London, daughter of George Perkins and Helen Duthie. She was born 28 November 1925 in Peckham, London25, and died 9 June 2000 in Lewisham, London25. More About Robert MacKenzie Loudoun: AKA (2): Robert is only known asRobert when he has been naughty! He's usually called Bob.25 Christened: Windsor25 Occupation: Manager of Despatch Department of an Advertising Agency (Retired)25 More About Dorothy Crawford Perkins: Cause of Death: Broncho Pneumonia, Cerebral Infarction, Appendix Abscess (Operation)25 Christened: 28 November 1928, Peckham, London.25 Occupation: Audio Typist25 Other-Begin: Now retired25 Registered Death: 15 June 2000, R M Loudoun, Widower25 Time&Place Died: University Hospital Lewisham at 4.45 p.Us Res 144 Chudleigh Road, London SE4 1EE25 Children of Robert Loudoun and Dorothy Perkins are: 67 i. Helen Mackenzie7 Loudoun25, born 1 August 1956 in Camberwell, London25. She married Antony Brian Curtis 20 October 1979 in Brockley, London; born 7 January 1952 in Negombo, Ceylon. More About Helen Mackenzie Loudoun: Christened: 1 August 1956, St Giles Hospital, Camberwell25 Occupation: Retired Teacher, Genealogical Researcher25 More About Antony Brian Curtis: AKA (2): Antony is usually known as Tony or Ant only his grandmother calls him Antony.25 Christened: 7 January 195225 Occupation: Retired Teacher and Gardener25 68 ii. George Arnot Loudoun25, born 20 April 1958 in Camberwell, London25. He married (1) Susan Grigg25 1 August 1987 in Brockley, London; born 27 August 1956 in London25. He met (2) Sally Burkin25 199425; born 14 January 1955 in Biggin Hill, Kent. More About George Arnot Loudoun: Occupation: Lift Engineer25 36. Harold Percival6 Loudoun (Harriet Florence5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 22 February 1926 in Brentford, London25. He married Doris Agnes Simmons25, daughter of Alfred Simmons and Agnes Churchill. She died 1997 in London. Child of Harold Loudoun and Doris Simmons is: + 69 i. Julie7 Loudoun. 38. Harold Arthur6 Bates (Harold Roland5, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 191425. Notes for Harold Arthur Bates: Births Dec 1914 BATES Harold A R Collett Camberwell 1d 1409 Children of Harold Arthur Bates are: 70 i. Victor7 Bates, born 1945. 71 ii. Christine Bates, born 1949. 72 iii. Peter Bates, born 1951. 73 iv. Kenneth Bates, born 1954; died 1997. 74 v. Susan Bates, born 1956. 75 vi. Carol Bates, born 1958. 44. Leonard P6 Gray (Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 1912, and died Bet. 1980 - 199025. He married Rose. She died Bet. 2000 - 2008. Notes for Leonard P Gray: Births Mar 1912 Gray Leonard P Bates Brentford 3a 280 Child of Leonard Gray and Rose is: 76 i. Leonard7 Gray, born 1933. He married Patricia. 49. Kenneth G6 Gray (Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 1923. He married Ruby Vaul25. Notes for Kenneth G Gray: Births Mar 1923 Gray Kenneth G Bates Brentford 3a 253 Child of Kenneth Gray and Ruby Vaul is: 77 i. Susan7 Gray25. She married Roger Taplin25. 50. Raymond G6 Gray (Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 25 February 1925. He married Pamela Hall25. Notes for Raymond G Gray: Births Jun 1925 Gray Raymond G Bates Brentford 3a 222 Child of Raymond Gray and Pamela Hall is: 78 i. Allan7 Gray25. He married Pamela Welstad25. 52. Pamela Doreen Violet6 Gray (Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 25 March 192825. She married Jack Watling25. Notes for Pamela Doreen Violet Gray: Births Jun 1928 Gray Pamela D V Bates Brentford 3a 270 Child of Pamela Gray and Jack Watling is: + 79 i. Peter7 Watling. 53. Monica Victoria6 Gray (Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25 was born 193125. She married Trevor Armstrong25. He was born 192725, and died 199325. Children of Monica Gray and Trevor Armstrong are: + 80 i. Sarah Elizabeth7 Armstrong. + 81 ii. Trevor Armstrong. Generation No. 7 69. Julie7 Loudoun (Harold Percival6, Harriet Florence5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25. She married Gary MacDonald25. Children of Julie Loudoun and Gary MacDonald are: 82 i. Samuel8 MacDonald25. 83 ii. Emma MacDonald25. 79. Peter7 Watling (Pamela Doreen Violet6 Gray, Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25. He married Janice Bird25. Children of Peter Watling and Janice Bird are: 84 i. Jenny Louise8 Watling25. 85 ii. Philip John Watling25. 86 iii. Lucy Watling25. 80. Sarah Elizabeth7 Armstrong (Monica Victoria6 Gray, Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25. She married Keval Shah25. Child of Sarah Armstrong and Keval Shah is: 87 i. Rishi Anna8 Shah25. 81. Trevor7 Armstrong (Monica Victoria6 Gray, Violet5 Bates, Arthur Edwin4, Matthew3, Thomas2, William1)25. He married Louise Burton25. Child of Trevor Armstrong and Louise Burton is: 88 i. Adam8 Armstrong25.