1. BARTHOLOMEW AND BARBARA GARTMAN He was born in Graubunden Canton, now Switzerland, abt 1700. Barbara, whose maiden name was Gartmann, would have been born abt the same time nearby. They may have been cousins. There are many Gartmans today in the area of Tschappina and Safien-Neukirch where they were married in 1722. Their children were Johannes (Hans), b 3/14/1726; Daniel, b abt 1728; Margaretha, b 9/20/1730; BARTHOLOMEW, b 7/26/1733; and another daughter, name unknown, who must have been born before 1737 and who later married a Swygert. In 1737 the family obtained a lot in Orangeburgh, SC, and 350 acres near Four Hole Swamp east of Orangeburgh. The map I have shows the farm east of the present I-26 and north of Road 33. Bart # 1 died before 12/31/1741 when Barbara Gartman, widow, married Joseph Lyons in Amelia Township. 2.BARTHOLOMEW AND CATHERINE___ GARTMAN We find the 2nd generation of American Gartmans in Lexington County, SC. in the area near present day Columbia. They have land in Saxe Gotha Township and in what is known as the "Dutch Fork". John Gartman, SR (older brother) obtained land in 1753 on Broad River and Cannon Creek out of what had been the Herman Geiger Estate. Janice Gartman Lee believes Margaretta (older sister) was wife to Geiger, who was killed by Indians abt 1751 and then to John Gallman. Bartholomew II (whom I believe is our ancestor) obtained land on the Broad River north of John in 1762. They would have been there during the Cherokee War in the 1760s and in the conflicts of about 1768 when Bart II was a leader in the Regulator Movement. They were there, perhaps above and below the Suluda River, during the Revolutionary War. Bart II is, I think, the Captain of Horse in the SC Milita. It is at this point that our family history becomes a bit confused. We know our ancestor was a Bartholomew Gartman who married Elender O'Quinn in Barnwell District, SC in 1810. I suppose him to be the son of Bart II and probably the Bartholomew Gartman, JR, who served as a Pvt, Sgt, & Lt in the SC Militia. If not the son of Capt. B Gartman, he would have had to have been son of one of the other brothers. 3. BARTHOLOMEW AND ELENDER O'QUINN GARTMAN For the husband of Elender O'Quinn to be Bartholomew Gartman, JR, a Revolutionary War veteran, he would have to have been born by 1768. If so, his mother may not be the Catherine Gartman who was the widow of Bartholomew Gartman who died in Jefferson County, GA, in 1801. My guess is that Bart II (who was a leader in the Regulator Movement) had an earlier wife than Catherine and that for that reason there is a gap in the birth years of the children, most of whom were born after the Revolutionary War. However, no records exist that we know of to verify any of our suppositions. We can suppose that the Bart Gartman in the Lexington County, SC, census of 1790 is Bart Sr. and that he moved to Colleton County, SC by 1800 census (or that that Bartholomew Gartman is Bart Jr.) with his father's younger family moving to Jefferson County, GA. Since in the 1810 census we have listed a Bartholomew Gartman estate in Colleton County and a Mrs. Gartman living nearby, we have to fit things together somehow. My guess is that the Colleton County land belonged to the father, that the estate was still unsettled in 1810 when Bart III and O'Quinn married, moved to GA and then to MS and LA. Here we again become relatively sure of our history. Bart and Elender O'Quinn Gartman had one child, David Alexander Gartman, b 1812 in GA; then Cynthia b 1814 and George B. b 1816 in Pike County, MS, followed by Josiah D, 1818, John Milledge, 1820, Catherine (Katie), 1822, Susanna Carolina and Commodor Perry, 1829, in Washington Parish, LA, and finally Ellen, 1831, back in Pike County. Note names of the children. David Alexander may have been named for his father's brother. In turn, John Milledge named his first son (my grandfather) for his oldest brother. The name John Milledge could have been for the first John Gartman and also for the GA politician of that name for whom Milledgeville, GA is named. Commodore Perry was named for a naval hero of the War of 1812 in which Bart III served in 1814-15. I also find it interesting that Josiah Dougherty may have received the Dougherty part of his name from a neighbor of Bart II in the Dutch Fork area of SC, James Dougherty, Jr. I wonder if it may be a clue to the maiden name of Bart III's mother. And, I am still searching for a link between the Otts, Shillings and other old SC families and our Gartmans. I am almost certain that the Ott of Ott's Mill and J. M. Gartman must have been kin. There are many many more questions. I wonder whether the Ellen I list should be Mary Ellen or Mary Ellender. I know a daughter, Mary, married Elias Smith and that Elender O'Quinn Gartman seems to have made her home with them (or they with her) in MS. Bob Gartman ??