Notes for Stoetzel Stitzel: Finding Henry and his father ---------------------------- It's been very difficult to place Henry Stitzel's history.
Family networks -- Many of our ancestors came to America with families that they have been subject to religious persecution and lived near for centuries. I am unable to find a passenger list for the 1794 period -- so I don't know who Henry Stitzel might have immigrated with.
Religious Affiliation -- I also have not been able to find Stitzels on European Mennonite or Brethren lists. So, it seems likely that the Henry Stitzel and his family immigrated to America and became Brethren due to his association with people in his community, like the Strickler family that son David Henry married in to. I'm guessing, then, that the Stitzels were Lutheran or part of the German Reformed Church prior to coming to America.
Here is some information, though, that may shed some light:
=============================================== Stitzel / Stoetzel / Stutzle families in America in the mid and late 1700s ================================================ There are other Stitzel's who came to America earlier and lived in Berks Co, PA.
1. Johannes Stoetzel (b. abt 1730), who settled in Berks. Co. Johannes Stitzel came from Stuggart, Wurttemberg, Germany to Philadelphia, on September 14, 1753 -- arriving on the ship "Edinburgh". Later he married Miss Mary Ludwig. John and his wife had seven children. Johannes Stoetzel was the name used when emigrating. Paperwork in Berks Co is in the name John Stitzel. This family has by far, the most documented "Stitzels" in 1700/1800s PA.
The oldest was George, who married Elizabeth and Sarah Hoch (daughters of Daniel and Mary Hoch) who moved to Franklin Co. in 1820 / 1824 and settled at the Hoch farm at Stitzel's corner -- and nearby. For instance, George (b. 1800) married Elizabeth Wagner (also another Menno/Brethren family name) and died in Peters Twp., Franklin Co., PA. George also had a son named Henry born 1789 (just significant because named Henry). This Henry was also in Franklin County, and moved into Maryland. George D. Stitzel of Des Moines, Iowa has manuscripts that tell of these early ancestors near Greencastle.
I hear that there were Stitzel family reunions where these Stitzels attended and were referred to as "cousins" -- but it seems how they were related has been lost.
This seems to indicate that our Stitzel family could be related to the earlier arriving Stitzels.
It would seem, though, that the scenarios would be: 1) our Henry could be a son of Johannes who immigrated in 1753 -- married young in Germany and had son Henry, who for some reason stayed in Germany for 40 years or more likely 2) Henry was a younger brother or a nephew of Johannes who immigrated in 1753.
2. There's a Jacob Stitzel -- hard to tell if there's a relationship, because there's no location, parental info, etc. to go by. This Jacob is in the Extended family of Gideon & Magdalene Hoch of Franklin Co., PA ancestry.com database, though - where there are 174 Stitzel/Stitzells (including John and Mary Ludwig Stitzel's family and 251 Hoch individuals). See #1 above.
Name: Jacob STITZEL Birth: ABT 1799 in PA or MD Occupation: BET 1850 AND 1860 farmer Occupation: 1870 retired farmer Residence: BET 1850 AND 1870 Latimore Twp., Adams Co., PA
Marriage 1 Mary b: BET 1797 AND 1798 in PA Children Susan STITZEL b: ABT 1828 in PA Catharine STITZEL b: ABT 1830 in PA Elizabeth STITZEL b: BET 1833 AND 1834 in PA Daniel F. STITZEL b: BET 1835 AND 1836 in PA Harrison STITZEL b: ABT 1842 in PA John STITZEL b: ABT 20 APR 1824 in PA
3. Here's a John Stuchell / Stutzell born about 1744 (i.e., could be John Henry, or could be Henry's brother). This John, though was in America in 1777 -- so he couldn't be our Henry, it doesn't fit the scenario where his child was nearly born during passage to America in 1794. John is settled in the same county as John Stitzel (b. 1730) -- I wonder if he could be Henry's brother, though. It's worth noting, though, that Indiana County is on the western part of PA -- a bit northeast of Pittsburg.
John Stuchell /Stutzell/ ------------------------- Birth: ABT. 1745 in Germany Death: in Indiana, PA RESIDED: Nr Ernest, Fulton Run Road, Indiana County, Penn. DIED: Indiana County, Penna. BURIAL: Indiana County, Penna. MIL: Westmoreland County Pennsylvania Rangers Troop Light Horse Company RANK: Private, Revolutionary War OATH OF FIDELITY: 14 Oct. 1777 OCCUPATION: Farmer
Marriage 1 Catherine Mary Lydic b: ABT. 1750 in Germany Married: ABT. 1768 in Germany
Children Anna Maria Stuchell b: ABT. 1770 in Holland Germany Abraham Stuchell b: 9 SEP 1772 in Holland Germany Elizabeth Stuchell b: 14 FEB 1775 in Holland Germany John Christian Stuchell b: 12 JUN 1777 Sarah Stuchell b: ABT. 1781 Catherine Stuchell b: ABT. 1783 Jacob Stuchell b: 20 DEC 1783
This may be more about the same John (mill reference) Johannes Stitzel Montgomery, Morton L., History of Berks County, 1886. pp. 930-944. OLEY TOWNSHIP ------------- TAXABLES OF 1759.-The following list comprises the taxables of the township for the year 1759. The tax levied amounted to one hundred and thirty-nine pounds, and Samuel High was the collector: John Stitzel 5
Down the creek John Stoetzel had a paper-mill as early as 1790. It was converted into a forge by Solomon Boyer in 1836. http://www.accessible.com/amcnty/PA/berks/Berks25Oley.htm
4. Here's a name similar to Stoetzle / Stitzel - this family database does not include any names such as Stutzel, Stitzel, Stoetzle -- but that isn't definitive since names changed much in the crossing. This family came from the Baden-Wurttemberg area (that part fits) - and settle in the same county as the Stoetzle /Stitzel family. Johannes married a Frey, another of our Mennonite/Brethren family names.
Name: Johannes Peter STETZLER
Birth: 5 Mar 1724 in Wirtenburg, Germany Death: 18 Jul 1795 in Windsor Castle, Berks, PA Burial: Zion Church, Windsor Castle, Berks, PA Change Date: 30 Jun 2002
Note: HIST: He arrived at the port of Philadelphia on the ship "Patience," where he took the oath of allegiance Sunday September 19, 1749. Passengers on the ship where from the German Palatinate and the Duchy of Wirtenburg. The vessel departed from Rotterdam, Holland with a stop at Cowes, England prior to its arrival in Philadelphia.
Marriage 1 Maria Eva FREY b: 24 Jun 1730 Married: 25 Mar 1761 in Windsor Castle Reformed Church Children George STETZLER b: 11 Oct 1767 in Windsor Twp., Berks, PA Peter STETZLER b: 11 Oct 1764 in Windsor Castle, Berks Co., PA Johan Martin STETZLER b: 18 Mar 1770 in Berks Co., PA
5. Here's a family database with a single Stitsel, but interestingly there are related Stutzman family members (Christian Stutzman b. 1732, Amish/Mennonite brother to our Jacob).
Name: Anna Maria Socin Stutsel 1 Sex: F Birth: 1810 in Wurttemberg, Germany Death: 14 OCT 1876 in Sigel, PA Burial: Mt. Tabor Cemetery Burial: UNKNOWN Row 9 Mt Tabor Cemetery, Eldred Twp, Sigel, PA
Marriage 1 Johann Martin Mueller MILLER ,* b: 27 MAR 1808 in Stotthof, Luebbenau, Calau, Brandenburg, Preussen
6. Here's another possible relative Peter (Hetzel) /Statzell/ -- his age is unknown, but would have to be born before 1754 to have arrived on the Neptune. I wonder if 1) the immigrating Peter is the grandfather of Peter b. 1819, otherwise 2) the immigrating would have been in his mid-60s or more when the child Peter was born.
Interestingly, there is no adult Statzell listed on the 1754 Neptune passenger list, but there is a Christian Hoch, Conrad Wagner, and Phillipus Frey -- family surnames that married into Johannes Stoetzel's family who arrived in 1753.
Immigration: 30 Sep 1754 Monday September 30, Arrived (Peter Hetzel) in Phila., Ship Neptune, Capt. Waire, from Rotterdam Fact 3: At the State House (PM) Fact 4: Charles Willing Esq. Mayor (present)
Children Peter M. STATZELL b: 1819
7. Here's another Stetzel - she's born about the time of our David Henry and there are other Stoetzels in this family database -- going back to the 1600s. One of the Stotzles also married into the Marzolf family. (Ironically, there is also a Madgalena Stitzel in the John Stitzel/Mary Ludwig and Hoch database with the same exact birth date -- she married Gideon Hoch, though, and died in 1878.)
Name: Margaret Magdalena STETZEL Sex: F Birth: 1 MAR 1795 1 Death: 28 FEB 1871 in New Seweckley Twp., Beaver Co., Pa. Buried in Bury St John's Cemetery, same address. 1
Marriage 1 Philipp Jacob MARZOLFF b: 19 MAR 1794 in 8:00 PM, Oberbetschdorf, Alsace, Bas Rhin, Fr. Children Sarah MARTZOLF b: 6 OCT 1830 in Beaver County, Pa. Margaret MARZOLFF Eva Magdalena MARZOLFF b: 24 OCT 1824 Maria MARZOLFF b: 6 OCT 1835
Sources: Title: Burry Church Records
8. A bit later Stitzel reference. Lehigh County borders Berk County. This family is not in the Extended family of Gideon & Magdalene Hoch of Franklin Co., PA ancestry.com database.
Name: Henry STETZEL Sex: M Birth: 1 JUN 1810 in Alsace, France Death: ABT 1888 in Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania Occupation: Reverend Change Date: 3 OCT 2001
Father: George STETZEL Mother: Mary SPITTLER
Marriage 1 Sarah Ann SHIMER Children Jonathan STETZEL b: 22 OCT 1844 in Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania
Rev. Henry Stitzel - 1852 ------------------------- HISTORY OF NORTHAMPTON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA. ZION'S CHURCH Of the Evangelical Association was organized by the Rev. Daniel Wieand, which consisted of four members, viz: W. H. Bachman Jacob Best George Miller Mrs. George Miller
The corner-stone was laid on Whit-Sunday, 1852. The ceremonies were conducted by Rev. Frederick Krecker, assisted by Rev. Henry Stetzel and others. It was consecrated in the fall of 1852 with appropriate ceremonies. ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ pa/northampton/history/local/davis/davis24.txt
May be the same Henry Stetzel: Historical Guide Explaining the Typical Representations & Symbolic Prophecies of the Holy Scriptures 1881 Author(s): (Rev) Stetzel, Henry; Yeakel, Irvin C.
============================================================== Stoetzel / Stotzle / Stutzlin family's with children born around 1745 ============================================================== 1. Here's a Stoetzel in Baden that *may* be some sort of relative (uncle, cousin, other). The strike against it is that there are not similar given names (Henry, David), which is very characteristic of German family naming conventions. And, no Americanized Stitzel names or Hochs in the database for this family.
Joseph Stoetzle --------------- Birth: c1690 Death: 30 Oct 1739 in Ebersweier, Baden
Note: Marriage info from church record. Note: Death date from funeral record.
Father: Conrad Stoetzle b: c1670
Marriage 1 Anna Maria Kast b: c1700 Married: 24 Jan 1722 in Ebersweier, Baden
Children Maria Agatha Stoetzle b: 19 Jan 1723 in Ebersweier, Baden Anna Catharina Stoetzle b: 14 Nov 1724 in Ebersweier, Baden Andreas Stoetzle b: 26 Nov 1726 in Ebersweier, Baden Maria Agatha Stoetzle b: 25 Jan 1729 in Ebersweier, Baden Maria Theresia Stoetzle b: 8 Aug 1730 in Ebersweier, Baden Maria Anna Stoetzle b: 1 Mar 1732 in Ebersweier, Baden Magdalena Stoetzle b: 31 Mar 1733 in Ebersweier, Baden Mathias Stoetzle b: 20 Feb 1735 in Ebersweier, Baden Franz Anton Stoetzle b: 29 Nov 1736 in Ebersweier, Baden Franz Joseph Stoetzle b: 13 Apr 1738 in Ebersweier, Baden
2. Here's another family from the Baden area. If they are relatives, they may be Swiss (e.g., "in" added to the end of the names: Stutzlin, Mullerin, Nusserin). There are a lot of Stutzles in this family database. There are no Henry's, though, and the family names are more in synch with the Joseph Stoetzel family above (Anton, Joseph, Maria, Andreas). There's also a Johann George with the same parents (Joannes and Anna Nusserin Stutzlin).
Name: Sebastian STUTZLIN
Birth: January 18, 1706 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Death: December 6, 1771 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany
Father: Joannes STUTZLIN b: March 7, 1676 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Mother: Anna NUSSERIN b: 1675 in Germany
Marriage 1 Barbara MULLERIN b: 1704 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Married: 1727 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany
Children Jakob (Jacobus) STUTZLE b: June 30, 1750 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Maria Magdalena STUTZLIN b: 1727 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Johannes STUTZLE b: April 11, 1732 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Anna Maria STUTZLE b: 1729 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Josephus STUTZLE b: April 29, 1734 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Sebastian STUTZLE b: January 9, 1740 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Maria Theresia STUTZLIN b: January 12, 1742 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Maria Agatha STUTZLIN b: 1744 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Johannes Michael STUTZLE b: February 28, 1746 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Francisca STUTZLIN b: 1748 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany Anna Maria STUTZLIN b: 1752 in Bondorf, Baden Wurttemberg, Germany
==================================== Summary of Immigration Records ==================================== Johannes Stotzel * 1753 Philadelphia, Ship Edinburg, 14 Sep 1753 John Stitzel * 1765 Philadelphia, Naturalization, Naturalization in Berks
Petter Statzel 1754 Philadelphia, German/arrival in Philadelphia Peter Stotzel 1754 Pennsylvania, appears on immigration and oath list
Hans Stitzel 1764 Pennsylvania, date of arrival or naturalization
Andreas Stetzel 1766 Philadelphia, Took the Oath of Allegiance Hermannus Stoetzel 1764-1798 America, immigrant from Alsace, France Johannes Stoetzel 1761 Pennsylvania, German settlers Georg Jacob Stotzel 1771 Pennsylvania Sebastian Stotzle 1786 Port uncertain, Auswanderungen aus Baden und dem Breisgau Hermannus Stotzel 1797 Pennsylvania, with wife, from Nassau-Dillenburg Michael Stitzell 1812;1828 Pennsylvania, arrival or first step of naturalization process, Fayette County
Peter Stutzlin 1739 Port uncertain, Auswanderungen aus Baden und dem Breisgau: Peter Stutzlin 1739 Port uncertain, 18th Cent Emigrants from SW Germany to America\Other
Peter Stetzer 1765 Philadelphia Peter Stetzler 1749 Philadelphia, German, Naturalizations of Foreign Protestants in the American Colonies. Konrad Stitzer 1756 Port Uncertain Matthaus Stetzer 1738 Port uncertain William Stetzer 1772 Pennsylvania, List of Indentured servants Matthaus Stetzer 1788 America, Auswanderungen aus Baden und dem Breisgau Johan Sigmund Stautzer 1751 Pennsylvania
There are a lot of Stats, Staats, Stuts, Stutz, Stitz, Steitz and Stites familys that immigrated in the 1700s
1794 Arrivals -- I probably did not pull, though, from a complete list of 1794 immigrants -------------------------------------------------- Magnus Stultz 1794 Philadelphia (likely a Steltz / Stoltz) Could not find a Magnus at all or a Henry that is born about 1744 Johan Strauble 1794 Philadelphia Lud Henrick Von Storich 1794 Philadelphia John Peter Schazel 1794 Philadelphia May be Schauseil, Johann Peter b. Sachsen-Anhalt although there's a child born in 1815 with same name in same place
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