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James Bigby (son of James Bigby and Elizabeth Hicks)1 was born Sep/06/1778 in Tennessee, and died Abt. 1858 in Hungary Mt.Cherokee N. W.. He married Catherine Foreman on 1800 in Amoree District, Tn2, daughter of John Anthony Foreman II and Susie Kah-Tah-Yah Gourd.

 Includes NotesNotes for James Bigby:
10. JAMES3 BIGBY, SR (ELIZABETH2 HICKS, NATHAN1) (Source: Emmet Starr, History Of The Cherokee Indians, 363, 566.) was born September 06, 1773, and died c 1858 (Now Cleveland Tenn). He married CATHERINE FOREMAN (Source: Starr, Foreman 1-2.) c 1800 in Amohee Dist, TN, daughter of JOHN FOREMAN and SUSIE GOURD. She was born April 17, 1785 in Ooyougilogi Co, TN, and died November 23, 1842.

Notes for JAMES BIGBY, SR:
James Bigby was Irish from his father and Cherokee from his mother. He had a half-brother, Thomas Wilson and a half-sister, Betsy Brown. He married Catherine Foreman in 1800, lived in Amohee District, Tennessee. James was interested in education. He and his brother-in-law, Thomas Foreman and Hair Conrad petitioned for a school to be established by the American Board of Commissioners for foreign missions. The school was established in 1824 called Candy's Creek Mission. After the Cherokee removal one of the eighteen schools in the Cherokee Nation in 1845 was at their home.

In 1825, James and Catherine lived close enough to attend the Candy's Creek Church with the missionary, Rev. William Holland, as their preacher. James spoke English and Cherokee but he always prayed in English. He rarely spoke in public and when he did it was not with ease. It was noted by William Holland, missionary, that he accepted his faith much later than Catherine. His path just got brighter and brighter. He was a good farmer and neighbor. He read understandingly.

July 24, 1801, James Bigby received a spinning wheel from indian agent Return J. Meigs.

April 8, 1813, James Bigby wrote Return J. Meigs for permit to run ferry on the Tennessee River near mouth of Baker's Creek and to build a road from it to meet road opened by Rogers. He had already gotten permission from Major Delso, proprietor of the other side of the river.

James Bigby was a private in North Carolina Continental Line. He received 640 acres which were issued December 24, 1796. James Bigby served under Captain John Mahary. The land he received was in Sumner County on the waters of White Oak Creek and Barren River.

Letter of April 15, 1829 about new church members:
Mrs. Polly Taylor, daughter of James Bigby was married to a white man. She is 25-30 years old with 7 children and lives within 4 miles of the mission. Bark Foreman, brother of T. Foreman, is 30 years old and had a hare-lip with a speech impediment. Bushyhead, 45-50 years old, a full blood, speaks little English. He was once very sinful and full of vice.

Thomas and James, Jr., unmarried sons of James and Catherine Bigby, understand English and Cherokee but speak only English. They are of very good character. James attends religious meetings regularly even in bad weather. They both speak easily at meetings and are readers.

More About JAMES BIGBY, SR:
Blood: 1/4 Cherokee

Notes for CATHERINE FOREMAN:
Catherine belonged to the Paint Clan. Catherine was a member of the Candy's Creek Church. Rev. William Holland was the missionary there and wrote about several members of the church. He said that Catherine was one of the first to embrace the faith. She understood and spoke a little English. Her life was such as to adorn her profession. She and her daughter manufactured cloth for the supply of her family. She was a very respectable woman. The dates given when she and others went into the church was September 25, 1825, at age 42. She was known to be 1/2 Cherokee.

December 13, 1813, James Cunningham stole Anthony Foreman's slave girl as testified to by Jack Foreman and Catherine Foreman Bigby.

Rev. William Holland wrote to the Foreign Mission Board on October 19, 1825:
Mrs. Bigby is an interesting half breed and the sister of Mr. T. Foreman. She is about 40 years old. She has a large family of children, four of which were baptized with her. James, Jr., and Thomas were baptized by a "strolling Methodist" as infants. Her mother Nancy Fields was also a member of the Candy's Creek Mission. [Note: the reference here to Catherine's "Mother" Nancy Fields is believed to be her Sister-in-Law Susannah (Nannie, Nancy) Fields].

More About CATHERINE FOREMAN:
Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
Clan: Paint (Gourd)

Children of JAMES BIGBY and CATHERINE FOREMAN are:
29. i. MARY ANN4 BIGBY, b. August 09, 1801, Cherokee Nat East; d. 1888.
30. ii. JENNIE BIGBY, b. c 1804; d. February 27, 1875.
31. iii. THOMAS WILSON BIGBY, b. February 22, 1806, Amohee Dist, TN; d. October 16, 1861, Stilwell, IT.
iv. JAMES BIGBY, JR (Source: Starr, Foreman 1-2-4.), b. c 1808; d. c 1868; m. LOUISA LEVI (Source: Emmet Starr, History Of The Cherokee Indians, 363.); b. c 1810.
More About JAMES BIGBY, JR:
Blood: 3/16 Cherokee
Clan: Paint (Gourd)


32. v. ELIZABETH BIGBY, b. c 1810; d. Bef. 1835.
33. vi. WILEY BIGBY, b. c 1812; d. 1867.
34. vii. SALLIE BIGBY, b. c 1814; d. c 1870.
viii. JACKSON BIGBY (Source: Starr, Foreman 1-2-8.), b. c 1816.
More About JACKSON BIGBY:
Blood: 3/16 Cherokee
Clan: Paint (Gourd)


35. ix. SUSIE BIGBY, b. c 1820; d. c 1870.
36. x. MALINDA JANE BIGBY, b. July 06, 1822, TN; d. September 02, 1909, OK.

James was a tribal council member that presented the "Cherokee Memorial" to congress in hopes of preventing the removal of the Cherokees from their homeland. During the removal, Jamse acted as an interpreter on the Trail of tears.

Genealogy Forum:
jerry.clark@arch1.nara.gov
Dr. Emmet Starr stated that Nathan Hicks, white trader, was married to a full-blood Cherokee Nancy Broom. However, his information was incorrect: the journals kept by the Moravian missionaries at the Spring Place school show that Nancy Broom (daughter of Chief Broom of Broomtown) was instead the principal wife of Nathan's mixed-blood son Charles Renatus Hicks. The journals explicitly recorded that Little Broom, a.k.a. Capt. Broom of the Cherokee Light Horse constabulary, was the brother-in-law of Charles Renatus Hicks. Capt. Broom perished during the Removal in 1839 as a member of the detachment of George Hicks (nephew of Charles R. Hicks).

Charles Hicks' sister (whose name is not yet known) was the mother of James Bigby. James Bigby's father was probably Samuel Bigby, a white man who visited the Spring Place school, acting as a messenger for William Hicks, brother of Charles.

My research has centered on Cherokee connections, so my experience of regular genealogy has been minimal. Since James Bigby,Sr. was born in 1778 in Georgia in the area controlled by the Chickamaugas during the Revolutionary War, it is likely that his white father (Samuel Bigby?) was a supporter of King George III.

I have a copy of a letter written in 1779 by Indian trader Robert Dews to British agent Alexander Cameron which mentions the names of a number of white men (Tories) who lived among the Cherokees and were joining war parties of Indians attacking the American frontier. Although no one named Bigby was mentioned, the men who were listed may have been progenitors of surnames of many Cherokee mixed-blood families (many names show up in Emmet Starr's HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS). One of the names was [Nathan] Hicks, whose 1/2 blood daughter (name unknown) was the mother of James Bigby. This 1779 letter is posted as part of Jim Hicks Cherokee Web site (I don't have the URL at hand).

The Loyalist connections with the Cherokees has been neglected as research. For instance, the Col. Thomas Waters mentioned in your posting was the husband of a 1/2 blood Cherokee woman Sarah Hughes, who was the aunt of the celebrated Chief James Vann. Waters was pardoned after the war by the Georgia legislature, but went back to England. Waters's son George Morgan Waters was one of the wealthiest persons listed in the 1835 Census of Cherokees.
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James Bigby, husband of Catherine Foreman, had a 1/2 brother named Thomas Wilson and a 1/2 sister named Betsy Brown (according to the Eastern Cherokee application of Malinda Redman, nee Bigby, their youngest daughter). Mrs. Betsy Brown (nee Douglas) was a widow of Capt. John Brown, a Cherokee veteran of the War of 1812. According to testimony in Betsy Brown's claims file by David Taylor, Mrs. Brown was related in some way to Taylor's wife (Mary Ann or Polly Bigby). Therefore, the mother of James had children by men named Bigby, Wilson, and Douglas (or Brown).

An 1801 letter from the Secretary of War to R.J. Meigs (Agent to the Cherokees) noted that a young Cherokee had attended a [Quaker?] school near Philadelphia and was returning to the Cherokee Nation. He was a nephew of Charles Renatus Hicks (Meig's interpreter). Charles Hicks was later elected as the first mixed-blood Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation. Hicks served only a few weeks before he died in 1827, and was succeeded briefly by his brother William A. Hicks. William was replaced by John Ross.

Diaries kept by Moravian missionaries at Spring Place, GA stated that Mrs. James Vann (nee Margaret Ann Scott) was a niece of the mixed-blood Charles Renatus Hicks. Her father was Walter Scott (British agent during the Revolutionary War) and her mother was Sarah Hicks (sister of Charles and William Hicks). Two sisters of Margaret (Betsy and Polly Scott) were also wives of Chief James Vann. Margaret Scott was visited by her cousin Thomas Wilson (noted by the missionaries as a nephew of Charles Hicks). Mrs. Vann was also visited by another cousin, James Hicks and his wife, a "daughter of Old Man Foreman". Thus James Bigby's mother was a sister of Charles Hicks, but she not Sarah Hicks).

Spring Place was also visited by a white man named Samuel Bigby, acting as a representative of William Abraham Hicks (Charles and Sarah's brother). Therefore, it is quite plausible that this Samuel Bigby was the previously unknown white father of James Bigby, Sr. T

he Cherokee historian and genealogist has information about Elizabeth Hicks with a number of husbands as another sister of Charles Hicks, but James Bigby's mother was not likely to be Elizabeth; my guess is that she was named Mary (or Polly) since the common female names in the Hicks family were Sarah, Elizabeth, and Mary.

I am a descendant of James Bigby and Catherine Foreman (via Mrs. Andrew Taylor, nee Jennie Bigby). Andrew Taylor was a brother of David Taylor mentioned above. Another ancestor was Sally Scott (Mrs. George McDonald), a sister of Margaret Ann Scott. George McDonald was an uncle of Chief John Ross.







More About James Bigby:
Fact #2: 1851, Drennan Roll #611 Flint District.

More About James Bigby and Catherine Foreman:
Marriage: 1800, Amoree District, Tn.2

Children of James Bigby and Catherine Foreman are:
  1. +Sallie Bigby, b. Abt. 1815, Cherokee Nation, TN3, d. Abt. 1870, Tahlequah, I.T. (Oklahoma)4.
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