The Horn's of Horn's Valley Alabama
Updated October 4, 2008
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Timothy
Ray
Horn
338 Cornell Drive Lake Worth,
Florida
33460
United States
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5615478409
Fax: 5619657257
funboytim@earthlink.net
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I am researching the HORN family descended from Joshua Horn b 1796 and Dorothy Ann Waits. I think Joshua's father was John Horn who is listed in Conecuh Co Ala Census in 1810, the very county that Joshua and Dorothy marry in 9 years later. Any information about Joshua's brothers or sisters would be welcomed. We don't know where and when Joshua or his family immigrated or even the country they came from. There has been much speculation that the Horn's were German but in researching the name HORN it becomes clear that the origin could have been German, Swiss, Austria, Holland, Ireland, England, or Wales. We know that Joshua and Dorothy Spoke English but could not read and write according to the Census information.
The Tidmore's and Waits of South Carolina
We know that Heinreich Dietmar of Germany immigrated to the US via Rotterdam in the Spring of 1750 on the ship Osgood arriving in Philadelphia. They landed Sept 29, 1750 after a difficult voyage. Heinrich's younger brother Johannes followed in 1754 via Hamburg on the ship Adventure and landed in Philadelphia on Sept 25 1754. Johannes became a naturalized citizen on Sept 24 1759 as John Titmore.
The Dutch Fork area of South Carolina was a small German settlement during this time and South Carolina was opening up to settlers as the land was being usurped (?purchased) from the Native Americans. 100 acres of land was granted on Nov 3 1763 to Henry Dietmar that was in the Dutch Fork area described as land on the Thickety Creek, a branch of the Broad River. On Dec 6 1768 Henry Dietmar filed for land on Cannon Creek in Craven County that later was to be Newberry County. He received title to this land on Jan 25, 1773. Henry's name was becoming anglicized in these documents to Henry Tidmore.
Henry married Dorothy ? sometime prior to 1754. We are unsure of all the children of Henry and Dorothy but those well documented are John Tidmore b 1757, Martha b 1759, Henry II b 1761, and Adam b 1774. We have strong circumstantial evidence that Suzannah was the daughter of Henry and Dorothy. Henry died prior to 1788 as Dorothy filed for and received an Indented Certificate from the Commissioners of the Treasury Office for provisions furnished for public use. This is documented evidence of her support for the Revolutionary War. There is considerable documentation of Dorothy and her son Adam on their land in the area and her negro slave girl Millie. Adam became ill and died and her son Henry went on to expand his estate when 577 acres were certified to him on Sept 15, 1809 east of Buffalow Creek. There are a group of people that insist that Dorothy's maiden name was Seas (or Sease) and others who insist that she was Goudelock. I have not seen evidence one way or the other.
The Tidmores/Waits and the Ties that Bind
Henry Tidmore (the son) sold land to Samuel Waits on May 15 1813 as this is documented in Newberry SC deed book K page 361. The transaction was for $22.
We know that Dorothy Waits was the daughter of Samuel Waits and Suzannah Tidmore of SC
Beyond this, all is speculation. Consider that the only Tidmores in the area during the time seem to have been Henry's family so it makes a very compelling argument that Suzannah was the daughter of Henry and Dorothy but I have not seen any documentaion to this effect. Max Tidmore's book on the Tidmore family doesn't list Suzannah as a chld of Henry. We do know that Henry II had a child named Suzannah so the presumption is that he named her after his sister. Also it would make sense that Suzannah would have a child named Dorothy since that is her presumed mother's name.
If anyone knows of documentation to this effect (or otherwise) please let me know.
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- An Incomplete Compendium of some Pioneering Alabama Families (view PDF)
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- James Bush Tombstone (32 KB)
County Line Arkansas Photo courtesy of Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn and Catherine Cardwell Tomb (43 KB)
Distance picture, the tombstone is in the lower left photo courtesy of Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn (226 KB)
Widow's application #2
- Mary Catherine Horn Tombstone (26 KB)
County Line Cemetary phot courtesy of Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn (945 KB)
Here we see where Catherine was approved for the pension
- Rebecca Lowery Tombstone (35 KB)
County Line Ark photo courtesy of Carroll Horn
- Front Cover of James Madison Horn's Bible (95 KB)
This is a Bible that was owned by James Matt Horn and given to my brother by one of James' grandchildren.
- William Horn Tombstone (13 KB)
Oak Grove Arkansas photo courtesy of Carroll Horn
- Bible of James Madison Horn (174 KB)
inside front cover
- Andrew Silas Horn Tombstone (277 KB)
Bethlehem Methodist Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (76 KB)
Title page
- Julius and Mary Edna Camp Tombstone (234 KB)
Bethlehem Methodist Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (95 KB)
Chapter listing
- William Thomas Baucum and Missie Ann Phillips Tomb (235 KB)
Bethlehem Methodist Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (118 KB)
1st handwritten page
- Bible James Madison Horn (102 KB)
2nd handwritten page
- Bible James Madison Horn (97 KB)
3rd handwritten page
- Bible James Madison Horn (119 KB)
4th handwritten page
- Robert and Lula Quarles Tombstone (254 KB)
Bethlehem Methodist Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- James and Nancy Curlee Tombstone (252 KB)
Bethlehem Methodist Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Herman Milam Tombstone (227 KB)
Millerville Baptish Church Cemetary Clay County
- Ira Milam and Laura (Sis) Phillips Tombstone (248 KB)
Millerville Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (101 KB)
Title page New Testament
- Robert and Emma Nixon Tombstone (270 KB)
Millerville Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (179 KB)
inside back cover
- Millerville Bapt church (183 KB)
Quite a few of my relatives reside here now
- Bible James Madison Horn (109 KB)
back cover
- Uncle Alvern and Aunt Node Tombstone (262 KB)
Springhill Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Bible James Madison Horn (55 KB)
paper found inside Bible
- Uncle Harim and Aunt Mittis Tombstone (249 KB)
Springhill Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- George Tolbert and Magaret Hopper (207 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas with captions
- Bud Jackson Tombstone (232 KB)
Springhill Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Calvin J Horn and Temperence Welch (225 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas, photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Liller Robinson Tombstone (238 KB)
Springhill Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Carey Horn and Anne Curry (237 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas, photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn and Catherine Cardwell (208 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas, photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Kenyon Horn and Laura Bush (246 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas, photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- James T Horn and Lou David (247 KB)
Tombstone in Montgomery County Arkansas, photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Colonel Amos Horn (73 KB)
Lost his leg when he slipped off of an icy cliff in Caddo Gap Arkansas and broke both legs. He always said they cut off the good leg.
- Wayne Robinson Tombstone (241 KB)
Springhill Bapt Church Cemetary Clay County Alabama
- Colonel Amos Horn Merchandise Receipt (395 KB)
My Great grandfather, Colonel Amos Horn operated a general store for a while and this is a receipt from that store where his son (my grandfather) purchased some items from him on credit.
- Green Lee Horn Family 1899-1906 (135 KB)
Green Lee and Wife Mary Jane and daughter Delia Ann seated with his 7 sons in back. The first 2 (left to right) are Bragg and William Joshua (which is which not known)then Elijah, Alex, A K (Ake), Bennett, and Simpson.
- Susan Rebeccan Horn and Joel McCreight's Tombstone (37 KB)
Yell Gravely Cemetary Arkansas
- Caddo Gap Arkansas (522 KB)
This is the cave and rock ledge where Colonel Amos fell while hunting the wild cat and where he fell breaking both legs, one of which had to be amputated.
- Susan Rebecca Horn and Joel McCreight (41 KB)
Yell Gravely Cemetary, Yell County Arkansas. Photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Edward Lee Horn (97 KB)
He is the man on the right
- Susan Rebecca Horn's Tombstone (45 KB)
Yell Gravely Cemetary Yell County Arkansas. Photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Kate Horn (78 KB)
She is 3rd from the left
- Joel McCreight's Tombstone (42 KB)
Yell Gravely Cemetary. Photo contributed by Carroll Horn
- Ruby Horn (38 KB)
This is Ruby Horn. I am unsure when it was taken
- James Joshua Horn (57 KB)
This pic of James Joshua Horn was sent to me by a relative
- Mama Horn is in this picture (506 KB)
Louneil Pricket is on the far left standing by Ancil Horn and Nettie Christine Davidson with their daughter Barbara Ann in front then there is Mama Horn. The far right I think is Helen and the man next to her is one of the brothers and it might even be my Dad Wallace but I am not sure.
- James Elam and Minnie Mae Johnson (286 KB)
marriage certificate
- James Madison Horn (609 KB)
My Great great grandfather
- James Madison Horn (225 KB)
This is evidence from his physician that he was disabled from hemorrhoids and rupture and old age.
- Horace Horn (84 KB)
Horace's daughter sent me this pic of her Dad.
- James Joshua Horn (73 KB)
This picture of James Joshua was sent to me by Bettyyakyak. He was her Great Great Grandfather.
- Larry Bose Horn and Esther McKinney (163 KB)
This picture was sent to me by Bettyyakyak. They were her Great Grandparents.
- Here is a whole mess of Clarks (2822 KB)
Including Israel Clark
- Elijah Horn (34 KB)
Elijah Horn and Annie Elizabeth Henry
- Horn's Valley School (48 KB)
Here is a picture of the children attending Horn's Valley School
- James Thomas Phillips and Elizabeth Melton (69 KB)
My Great Grandparents
- Bell Robinson, JW Phillips (94 KB)
Also includes Claude Phillips, Alford Phillips, and John Evans Phillips
- James Madison Horn (352 KB)
This is his application for pension for serving in the Civil War
- Rufus Phillips and Ollie Davidson (67 KB)
My Great Uncle Rufus and Great Aunt Ollie
- James Madison Horn (93 KB)
A second application for pension
- Amos Horn Tombstone (41 KB)
Oak Grove Cemetary Montgomery Arkansas Photo is courtesy of Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn (95 KB)
Arkansas History Commission file
- Bertha Horn Thornton Tombstone (29 KB)
Oak Grove Arkansas Photo Courtesy of Carroll Horn
- James Madison Horn (88 KB)
This is the attestation that James Matt Horn is deceased
- Madison Horn and Catherine Cardwell (479 KB)
The State of Alabama Coosa County. To any ordained or licensed Minister of the Gospel, Judge of the Circuit or Probate Court or any Justice of the Peace for said county. Greeting You are hereby authorized to solemnize the rites of matrimony between Madison Horn and Cathereine Cardwell and this shall be you sufficient authority for so doing Given under my hand at office this 2nd day of March 1858 and of teh American Independance the 82nd year. AA McMillan Judge of the Probate. The above named parties were married by me on the 2nd day of March 1858.
W G Delany, Justice of the Peace
- James Madison Horn (427 KB)
This shows that he was a POW in the Civil War
- James Madison Horn (492 KB)
2nd POW form showing James was captured
- James Madison Horn (478 KB)
3rd document showing James was a POW
- Mama and Papa Horn (140 KB)
This photo must have been taken shortly before Papa Horn died in 1973.
- James Madison Horn (133 KB)
This document shows that James was indigent
- Colonel Amos Horn family (827 KB)
This picture was taken in 1902
- James Madison Horn (270 KB)
Proof of Service
- James Madison Horn (726 KB)
Here we see that Catherine is applying for pension after James dies.
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- Joshua Horn's Will (2 KB)
this is the text of the will of Joshua Horn
- Joshua and Dolly marriage affidavit (1 KB)
The courthouse in Conecuh burned destroying the marriage records of Joshua and Dorothy and this affidavit attests to their marriage
- Joshua Horn Jr pay affidavit (1 KB)
When Joshua Horn Junior was killed in the Siege of Vicksburg, he was still owed for service from his last pay to the date of death. Here Joshua Sr is applying for that pay from the Confederate States.
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