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Ancestors of Clovis LaVaso LaFleur,Jr.


Generation No. 5


      16. Frederick Clovice LaFleur (Source: Clovis La Fleur Speculation, Augusta, Woodruff County, Arkansas records. Middle name could make him the father of Clovice LaFleur.), born 1820; died 1900 in Woodruff County, Arkansas (Page 125, Woodruff Co. Cemetery Book.

Notes for Frederick Clovice LaFleur:
Note by Clovis La Fleur, Dec. 15, 1998

I contacted Lola Knight Ashburn of the Woodruff County, Arkansas Historical Society on December 10, 1998. She looked in the Woodruff County Cemetery Book and found on Page 125 that Ferderick Clovice La Fleur was born in 1820 and died in 1900. He is buried in the Union Cemetery - Veterans located in Woodruff County.

On Page 37 ,buried In the Augusta, Arkansas Cemetery there is a Mrs. Emma La Fleur (July 18, 1859 - Dec. 27, 1926). In the same cemetery there is a Frederic Clovice La Fleur (Nov. 20, 1887 - March 26, 1926).

Because of the middle name and until I have more information, I am going to refer to Frederick as the Father of Clovice born in 1858. The following are a few thoughts:

1) Frederick's middle name is spelled exactly the same as G.- Grandfather La Fleur and my Father Clovice.

2) Fredericks date of birth would make this possible.

3) Because Frederick was buried in a Union Veterans Cemetery, I believe he was a soldier in the Civil war on the Union side. This would imply he was not born in Woodruff County.

4) Since Clovice was born in 1858, before the Civil war, I believe he was also not born in Woodruff County.

5) I believe Frederick and his family moved to Woodruff County after the Civil War.


     
Children of Frederick Clovice LaFleur are:
  i.   Possible Brother LaFleur, married Mrs. Emma LaFleur; born July 18, 1859; died December 27, 1926 in Woodruff County, Arkansas.
  Notes for Possible Brother LaFleur:
Note by Clovis La Fleur Dec. 15, 1998

This is possible. The entry is temporary until it can be verified. See Frederick Clovice La Fleur born in 1820 for more info.

  Notes for Mrs. Emma LaFleur:
Note by Clovis La Fleur on Dec. 15, 1998

This will need more proof. I am assuming the name listed in the Augusta Cemetery is the Married name of Emma because of the "Mrs." used in the listing. She could have also been a first wife of G. Grandfather Clovice. The entry is temporary until verification can be found. See Frederick Clovice La Fleur note for more info.

  8 ii.   Clovice Leevaso LaFleur, born September 1856 in Arkansas??; died April 06, 1937 in Oakdale, Louisiana; married Hopestell "Hopie" Taylor Bet. 1887 - 1888 in Perhaps Woodruff County, Arkansas.


      18. Abraham Taylor (Source: Marion County, Arkansas 1850 Census, Listed as Ab Taylor with wife listed as Hopestea (Rest was unreadable).), born Abt. 1791 in New York (Source: Marion County, Arkansas 1850 Census.); died Bet. 1860 - 1870 in Missouri??. He married 19. Hopestell Maybe Hardister Bet. 1845 - 1849 in Maybe Marion Co. Arkansas.

      19. Hopestell Maybe Hardister (Source: (1) Boone County, Prairie Township, Arkansas, 1870 Census, Source of Spelling of her first name. She was head of the househole in this census. She used the last name Taylor. Hence, I do not know her maiden name., (2) Wilma Jones Cowan, wcowan@yournet.com, Source of Hopestell's surname possibly being Hardister. Have also found name spelled Hardester. Quote: "The name of Hardister came from the hardister Family." According to Wilma, this source died several years ago.), born Abt. 1816 in Tennessee (Source: Boone County, Prairie Township, Arkansas, 1870 Census.).

Notes for Abraham Taylor:
Source: 1850 Census on from Marion co. Arkansas found on the Taney Co. Missouri web site.

Taylor AB 60 farmer 600 NY
Hopestea? 37 TN
Carnahan Samuel 17 farmer Ark
Green 15 farmer Ark
Sarah J 13 Ark
George 11 Ark
Elisabeth 9 Ark
Martha A 7 Ark
David 5 Ark
Taylor Mary A 1 Ark

Line 11 of 1840 Washington Co. Ark. Census. Possible Husband of Hopestill

Benjamin Carnahan

w/m under 5 yrs=2
w/m 05-10 years=1
w/m 30-40 years=1
w/f under 5 yrs=1
w/f 20-30 years=1

Line 12

  Notes for Hopestell Maybe Hardister:
The following are a series of e-mails and other data found after learning Hopestell's surname may have been Hardister. In searching the records, I have also found this name spelled Hardester. (Note by Clovis La Fleur, 6/20/2001


From: Wilma
To: clovisjr@ktc.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Hopie Taylor


Hi clovis
Noted your query on Hopie Taylor. If your gg-grandmother was the Hopie who md William David Jones(my line) 28 Feb, 1874, age 16 then she was the d/o A. B. Taylor & Hopestell Hardister. they moved to Williamson Co. Tx abt. 1876 with his parents. They were in the 1880 census, Boone Co. In 1900 William was md to Addie ? William & Hopie had two children, Felix bn. Feb, 1875, Boone Co. & S. A. Louisa, bn 1878 Williamson Co. Tx. She half bros.& sisters as Hopestell was first md. to Benjamin Yourg Carnahan and one sister, Mary Ann Taylor, bn 1849/50.
If this is your Hopestell(her name also, by census) called Hopie. I had thouhgt she may have died bef. 1887. Wilma Jones Cowan
E-mail: wcowan@yournet.com


From: Wilma
To: clovisjr@ktc.com
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Taylor


Hi Clovis
I've been going through my records on Hopie Taylor. In 1850 census her mother, Hopestell was 37, md to A. E. Taylor, age 60. with a dau. Mary Ann, age 1. In 1870 Prairie twp., Boone County, Hopestell is a widow with following, Mary Ann 20; John W. 18; William F. 16; and Hopestell 14. In the 1880 Williamson County, Tx census William David Jones age 24 & Hopie age 23. I had assumed she added a year or so to her age when they married.
Also in 1870, Hopie's mother gave her age as 54 which by 1850 's census she should have been 57.
Does any of these Taylor siblings mean anything to you? I would love to hear from you, maybe we can find out if these Hopie's are the same person.
Wilma Jones Cowan
E-mail: wcowan@yournet.com

From: Wilma
To: clovisjr@ktc.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: Jones-Taylor


Hi Clovis
I'll try and fill in some of the blanks. William Davis was my ggg-grandfather's grandson. His father was John O. Jones & Margaret C. Jones Jones. John O. bn Va., Margaret bn. Al. 1837, died aft. 1904, bef. 1910 in Johnston Co. Ok. Grave is unmarked. William was bn. 14 Feb., 1856 Carroll Co., Ar; Died 28 Nov., 1932, Henrietta, Clay Co. Tx. The last I have for Hopie was 1880 Williamson Co., Tx census and over that 20 year span I didn't know what happened to her as he was md. to Addie ? in 1900 lvg. in Montague Co. Tx. and they had 4 children with 3 lvg.. Infant, Ollie, 1894; William Earl,1896; Myrtle, 1898. 1910 they had Ruby Jewell, 1903.
I had thought that maybe Hopie had died in childbirth.
I didn't know they moved back to Ar.
My ggg-grandparents was John Jones, bn 1788, Tn & Mary Gaines, 1895, Ga.(parents of Margaret C. Jones)
The name of Hardister came from the the Hardister family and Hopestell & Benjamin Carnahan owned land in Washington Co., Ar. in 1841 and 1847(Ar, tax records) owned land in Marion Co. Ar., which in 1875 was taken into Boone Co.
William David Jones' sister. Martha Jane md. David W, Carnahan, half brother of Hopie. They also were in Williamson Co.. in 1880. In 1900 they were lvg. in Gainesville, Tx. I've been unable to find them after that time
Hopie's half siblings were (per 1850 census) Samuel 17, Green 15, Sarah 13, George 11, Elizabeth 9, Martha A. 7, David W. 5.
Did Hopie's death certificate have her dob? If you have it, I would appreciate getting that info.
Did I miss anything?
Wilma

From: Wilma
To: clovisjr@ktc.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Hopie


Hi Clovis
This web gets more confusing! I have Wm. David's obit. In it no survivors of his and Hopie's children were listed. William Herbert should have been a survivor as W.D. died 1932. There must have been no communincation between the two families. I can't recall which census I found Felix L/R Jones, ( it was 1910, I think) oldest child of W.D. & Hopie's was in the Huntsville prison. Soon after that I talked with a descendant of W.D.'s father's brother who lives in San Antonio and asked about this info, which she told me she knew about. I haven't shown any of this nor do I intend to do so. I know that W.D. moved back into Ok. as his & Addie's oldest child was born there. I ordered the soundex which was so dim it could hardly be read and they were living in Sterling Co. Tx in 1910 with 5 children with only 4 living in 1932 when he died.
Do you know if it is possible to get records from the prison?
Can you answer the following?
Was Hopie buried in Oakdale, La?
On Wm. Herbert's death certificate did it show that William David was his father?
There seems to be many questions regarding W. D. & Hopie.
You ask about the Hardister name, the lady who gave me this info 4 or 5 years ago,died two years ago of cancer. She was researching Young, Hardister and others. She and I were researching at the LDS history center at the time and she wanted to know about William David. She died in Muskogee, Ok. and I don't know what may have happeded to her information.
Think we can ever get this untangled?
Wilma
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From Gibson County, Tenn. Marriage Records
Henry Hardester & Jane Stone, 11/25/1833
Ann Hardister & William Goodman, 7/27/1831(Note: According to Goodman Family notes. Ann Hardister's father was Samuel Hardister.)
Jans Hardister & Edward Haley, 9/17/1833
James B. Carnahan & Martha Bell, 4/1/1831

From the Gibson County, Tenn 1834 Taxlist
Henry Hardister
John Carnahan
Porter Carnahan
*************************************************************
Washington County, Ark. 1840 Census, page 270
Line 11
Benjamin Carnahan
White/Males Under 5=2 [Green, George ]
w/m age 5-10=1 [Samuel]
w/m age 30-40=1[Benjamin]
w/females under age 5=1[Sarah]
w/f age 20-30=1[Hopestell]
Line 12
Macajah Hardester (Micaijan Hardester in Marion County Land Records, 1860)
w/males under 5=3
w/m age 20-30=1
w/f age 5-10=3
w/f age 20-30=1
w/f age 5-10=


Descendants of Hopestell Hardister
The following was data obtained from Carol Carnahan
From: Carol Carnahan
To: Clovis La Fleur
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Hopestell Hardister


Hi, Clovis: Please forgive my tardy reply to your e-mail of the 11th. Thanks for writing. I don't think there's any doubt you've got the right family. I'll attach a text file for Benjamin and Hopestell Carnahan for you to look at -- this is all the info I have on Hopestell, and it came from two very good sources, who cited specific documents: Charolette Sage <csage@swbell.net> and Emma Cronin <ENC6@aol.com>. You may already have had correspondence with these ladies. Emma is the list-owner for the CARNAHAN-L mailing list at Rootsweb, and Charolette is a subscriber on the list.
Best regards,
Carol Carnahan


Generation No. 1

1. HOPESTELL HARDISTER was born Abt. 1813 in Tennessee. She married (1) REV. BENJAMIN YOUNG CARNAHAN, son of JOHN CARNAHAN and JANET BILLINGSLEY. He was born Abt. 1809, and died Bef. 1850. She married (2) A.B. TAYLOR. He was born Abt. 1790 in New York.

Notes for HOPESTELL HARDISTER:
Info from Emma Cronin on Carnahan-L mailing list, 7/2000: "While searching for the (Jacob) Baughman folks I found the following:"
1850 CENSUS, Marion Co, AR:
      Taylor, A.B., age 60, farmer, 600, POB NY
      Hopestea?, age 37, POB Tn
      Carnahan, Samuel, 17, farmer, POB Ark
      Green, 15, farmer, POB Ark
      Sarah J, 13, POB Ark
      George, 11, POB Ark
      Elisabeth, 9, POB Ark
            Martha A, 7, POB Ark
      David, 5, POB Ark
      Taylor, Mary A, age 1, POB Ark
Emma said, "Could the Hopestea listed as a wife of A.B. Taylor be a widow for Benjamin Young Carnahan and could those Carnahan folks be his children?"

Notes for REV. BENJAMIN YOUNG CARNAHAN:
A. E. Carnahan note on P. 46 of The Pyeatts and Carnahans of Old Cane Hill: (this must be a different Ben. See more recent info below.) "When Ben Carnahan enlisted for the Civil War, he took with him a black boy to wait on him. When his master was killed at Corinth, Miss., the boy left the army and went to Kansas where he received a good education, became a lawyer, and in 1896 returned to Arkansas and made speeches for 'Bryan and Free Silver!'"
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PROPERTY: Ben owned land in Marion Co, Arkansas (from AR Tax Records including 1847) after he and Hopestell sold their Washington County land in 1841 and moved to Marion County.

Charolette Sage note7/2000: Benjamin Young Carnahan was born approximately 1809 and died prior to 1850. He owned land in Marion County Arkansas (from AR Tax Records including 1847) after he and Hopestell Hardister Carnahan sold their Washington Co. land in 1841 and moved to Marion County. Their oldest son, Samuel, is my gg-gfather who settled in the Boone County area after the Civil War. Three of Benjamin and Hopestell's sons served in the Civil War: Samuel, Greene and George W.



More About REV. BENJAMIN YOUNG CARNAHAN:
Occupation: Methodist Minister
Property: Bef. 1841, Washington Co, Arkansas
     
Children of HOPESTELL HARDISTER and BENJAMIN CARNAHAN are:
      i.      SAMUEL2 CARNAHAN4, b. Abt. 1833.

More About SAMUEL CARNAHAN:
Military: Bef. 1865, Civil War
Property: Aft. 1865, Boone County, Arkansas

      ii.      GREENE CARNAHAN, b. Abt. 1835.

More About GREENE CARNAHAN:
Military: Civil War

      iii.      GEORGE W. CARNAHAN, b. Abt. 1839.

More About GEORGE W. CARNAHAN:
Military: Bet. 1860 - 1865, Civil War

      iv.      ELISABETH CARNAHAN, b. Abt. 1841.
      v.      MARTHA A. CARNAHAN, b. Abt. 1843.
      vi.      DAVID CARNAHAN, b. Abt. 1845.

     
Child of HOPESTELL HARDISTER and A.B. TAYLOR is:
      vii.      MARY A.2 TAYLOR, b. 1849.



Endnotes

1. Records of Emma Cronin, "Electronic."
2. Records of Charolette Sage, All Data on Benjamin Young Carnahan family.
3. Records of Charolette Sage.
4. Records of Charolette Sage, Samuel Carnahan, son of Benjamin, settled in the Boone Co, AR area after the Civil War.

     
Children of Abraham Taylor and Hopestell Hardister are:
  i.   Mary Ann Taylor, born Abt. 1850.
  ii.   John W. Taylor, born Abt. 1852.
  iii.   William F. Taylor, born Abt. 1854.
  9 iv.   Hopestell "Hopie" Taylor, born July 1856 in Taney County, Missouri; died September 27, 1933 in Oakdale, Allen Parish, Louisiana; married (1) William Davis Jones February 28, 1874 in Boone County, Arkansas; married (2) Joshua Davis January 12, 1885 in Woodruff County, Arkansas; married (3) William M. Stokes December 19, 1885 in Woodruff County, Arkansas; married (4) Clovice Leevaso LaFleur Bet. 1887 - 1888 in Perhaps Woodruff County, Arkansas.


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