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      8. *Jeanne2 Thibodeau (*Pierre1)18 was born 167218, and died April 07, 1741 in Louisbourg18. She married *Mathieu de Goutin18 Abt. 168918. He was born Abt. 166318, and died December 25, 171419,19.

Notes for *Mathieu de Goutin:
Matheiu De Goutin (sometimes written Degoutin, Degoutins, Desgoutins but he
signed De Goutin), king's counsellor, lieutenant general for justice in
Acadia, king's writer in Acadia and ILe Royale (Cape Breton Island) was
born in France probably in the 1660's and died at ILe Royale on December 25,
1714.

Our knowledge of de Goutin previous to his coming to Acadia is meager. He
himself refers to having participated in five campaigns, probably as a
commissariat clerk, with the Regiment de la Couronne. He secured his
appointment to Acadia through the influence of the Marquis de Chevry, a
director of the Compagnie de la Peche Sedentaire de l'Acadie, whose father
he had previously served as secretary.

De Goutin came to Acadia in 1688 and soon married, in the words of Governor
Des Friches de Meneval, "foolishly, a peasant's daughter," Jeanne Tibaudeau,
the daughter of Pierre Tibaudeau and Jeanne Terriot. By her he had the
following children; Francois Marie, Abraham (or Alexandre), Anne, Mathieu,
Marguerite, Jacques, Marie Josephe, Antoine, Joseph, Jeanne, Magdelaine and
Louise.

Upon his arrival at Port Royal, De Goutin found himself the busiest official
of the colony. As lieutenant general, he heard all civil and criminal suits
and those pertaining as well to public order, navigation,
and trade. As king's writer, he was sub delegate of the intendant of New
France. He administered the king's accounts, munitions and supplies and was
inspector of crown works. With such extensive duties it was perhaps
inevitable that his performance would give rise to many of the quarrels in
which he became embroiled. As early as 1689, Meneval wrote the minister
that de Goutin was "an undeserving, worthless character. . .[who is] quite
stubbornly convinced of his ability . . . [and] sure that the two offices
he holds will give him a rank and authority here which are, if not above, at
least equal to that of the governor." Specifically, Meneval accused him of
seeking to incite the garrison, the inhabitants and the Indians to
disobedience and to contempt not only of the governor's authority but of
that of the clergy as well. On this latter point, Meneval reported that De
Goutin and his friends "degrade [the] lives and characters [of the clergy]
to the great contempt of religion."

De Goutin countered that Meneval meddled with his functions "[doing]
everything without informing me in any way," and instructing inhabitants
"not to acknowledge me as their judge." He went on to accuse the clergy of
illegal trade and of 'intimidating the consciences" of the inhabitants.

As a result of these quarrels the minister ordered de Goutin back to France.
In the meantime, however, Sir William Phips had captured Port Royal in May
1690. After being taken prisoner and later released, de Goutin went first
to the Saint John River and then to Canada. He returned to Port Royal the
following year before sailing to France, probably in 1692. There, in 1692
and 1693, he presumably regained the favour of the authorities and, in
February 1693, amid references to his "ability, courage and devotion to
duty" he was instructed to return to Acadia. De Goutin's relations with
Meneval's successor, Joseph Robinau de Villebon, appear to have been without
incident for several years. During this time he had been confirmed in the
possession of two wilderness tracts, one on the Mouscoudabouet
(Musquodoboit) River in 1692, the other at La Pointe Aux Chesnes, on the
Saint John River in 1696. There is no evidence that he undertook any
improvements on either property. On March 27, 1696, he obtained leave to
return to France to attend to family affairs. Before departing, he
accompanied Pierre Le Moyne D'Iberville in his attack on the English fort at
Pemaquid in August. He sent an account of this expedition to the minister.
While in France he spent five weeks at the ministry of Marine.

He returned to Acadia in 1697, arriving at Fort Nashwaak (Naxouat) on August
10th. For some reason, it was only upon his return to Acadia that de
Goutin's relations with Villebon became uneasy, judging from the dispatches
in which he reported at length on the alleged misconduct of his superior.
He also clashed with Claude Sebastien de Villieu, accusing him of selling
for his own profit the foodstuffs he received for the soldiers in his
company and with Simon Pierre Denys de Bonaventure on the latter's alleged
affair with the widow D'Amours de Freneuse, Louise Guyon.

The question as to whether de Goutin was suited to his duties in Acadia
recurred during the governorship of Jacques Francois de Brouillan
[Mombeton]. Though the new governor's first impression of de Goutin was
favourable, he soon reported that de Goutin was "hardly in a position to
make good judgements. . .because a third of the settlers are relatives of
his wife." De Goutin agreed to refer cases involving his wife's relatives
to the king's attorney. Brouillan then contended that because of the extent
and variety of his duties, de Goutin "has trouble doing any one of his jobs
well". Indeed, de Goutin himself complained that he had "no set time for
drinking and eating, [for I am more busy on feast days and Sundays than on\
working days [because] the settlers use these days to conduct their business
when they come to Mass." Brouillan's most serious contention was that de
Goutin was leading a cabal of officers aimed at undermining the governor's
authority. To this de Goutin somewhat facetiously replied that what the
governor called a cabal was nothing more than "three or four friends,
honourable people, who are close because they like each other's company. .
.[and who are] called cabalists . . . because they have not bowed before the
beast."

By contrast, de Goutin's relations with Governor Auger de Subercase were
strikingly cordial. The minister had issued the terse warning to de Goutin:
"Should you give him cause for complaint. . . you would not be able to stay
in this country." De Goutin appears to have been very careful and, in 1707,
Subercase advised the minister that he "fulfills properly the duties of his
office." The minister in turn appeared to show increased confidence in de
Goutin for, 1708 and again in 1710, he instructed him in no uncertain terms
to report everything that might appear contrary to the king's interest,
including Subercase's conduct.

Following the surrender of Port Royal to Francis Nicholson in 1710, de
Goutin returned to France with his family in 1711. In 1714 he was appointed
king's writer at ILe Royale. After his death on Christmas day 1714, his
widow and children remained at ILe Royale where for a time they received
rations from the crown. Their eldest son, Francois Marie, followed his
father into the civil administration of ILe Royale and at least five
daughters married officers, four in ILe Royale.

Traditionally, Mathieu de Goutin has been described, somewhat unfairly, as
an "unscrupulous mischief maker." Though his arrogance and vanity are quite
apparent, it would appear nevertheless that he was a capable official.
Indeed, his superiors persisted in recognizing this for 22 years. Because
one of the functions of effective civil officials was to serve as a
restraint upon the otherwise near-absolute power of the governor, it is
perhaps as much for this reason, as for his alliances among the inhabitants,
that Mathieu de Goutin also enjoyed the confidence of the Acadian peasantry,
who had acquired long before a natural distaste for the inflexibility of
colonial administration.[Thibodeaux.FTW]

Matheiu De Goutin (sometimes written Degoutin, Degoutins, Desgoutins but he
signed De Goutin), king's counsellor, lieutenant general for justice in
Acadia, king's writer in Acadia and ILe Royale (Cape Breton Island) was
born in France probably in the 1660's and died at ILe Royale on December 25,
1714.

Our knowledge of de Goutin previous to his coming to Acadia is meager. He
himself refers to having participated in five campaigns, probably as a
commissariat clerk, with the Regiment de la Couronne. He secured his
appointment to Acadia through the influence of the Marquis de Chevry, a
director of the Compagnie de la Peche Sedentaire de l'Acadie, whose father
he had previously served as secretary.

De Goutin came to Acadia in 1688 and soon married, in the words of Governor
Des Friches de Meneval, "foolishly, a peasant's daughter," Jeanne Tibaudeau,
the daughter of Pierre Tibaudeau and Jeanne Terriot. By her he had the
following children; Francois Marie, Abraham (or Alexandre), Anne, Mathieu,
Marguerite, Jacques, Marie Josephe, Antoine, Joseph, Jeanne, Magdelaine and
Louise.

Upon his arrival at Port Royal, De Goutin found himself the busiest official
of the colony. As lieutenant general, he heard all civil and criminal suits
and those pertaining as well to public order, navigation,
and trade. As king's writer, he was sub delegate of the intendant of New
France. He administered the king's accounts, munitions and supplies and was
inspector of crown works. With such extensive duties it was perhaps
inevitable that his performance would give rise to many of the quarrels in
which he became embroiled. As early as 1689, Meneval wrote the minister
that de Goutin was "an undeserving, worthless character. . .[who is] quite
stubbornly convinced of his ability . . . [and] sure that the two offices
he holds will give him a rank and authority here which are, if not above, at
least equal to that of the governor." Specifically, Meneval accused him of
seeking to incite the garrison, the inhabitants and the Indians to
disobedience and to contempt not only of the governor's authority but of
that of the clergy as well. On this latter point, Meneval reported that De
Goutin and his friends "degrade [the] lives and characters [of the clergy]
to the great contempt of religion."

De Goutin countered that Meneval meddled with his functions "[doing]
everything without informing me in any way," and instructing inhabitants
"not to acknowledge me as their judge." He went on to accuse the clergy of
illegal trade and of 'intimidating the consciences" of the inhabitants.

As a result of these quarrels the minister ordered de Goutin back to France.
In the meantime, however, Sir William Phips had captured Port Royal in May
1690. After being taken prisoner and later released, de Goutin went first
to the Saint John River and then to Canada. He returned to Port Royal the
following year before sailing to France, probably in 1692. There, in 1692
and 1693, he presumably regained the favour of the authorities and, in
February 1693, amid references to his "ability, courage and devotion to
duty" he was instructed to return to Acadia. De Goutin's relations with
Meneval's successor, Joseph Robinau de Villebon, appear to have been without
incident for several years. During this time he had been confirmed in the
possession of two wilderness tracts, one on the Mouscoudabouet
(Musquodoboit) River in 1692, the other at La Pointe Aux Chesnes, on the
Saint John River in 1696. There is no evidence that he undertook any
improvements on either property. On March 27, 1696, he obtained leave to
return to France to attend to family affairs. Before departing, he
accompanied Pierre Le Moyne D'Iberville in his attack on the English fort at
Pemaquid in August. He sent an account of this expedition to the minister.
While in France he spent five weeks at the ministry of Marine.

He returned to Acadia in 1697, arriving at Fort Nashwaak (Naxouat) on August
10th. For some reason, it was only upon his return to Acadia that de
Goutin's relations with Villebon became uneasy, judging from the dispatches
in which he reported at length on the alleged misconduct of his superior.
He also clashed with Claude Sebastien de Villieu, accusing him of selling
for his own profit the foodstuffs he received for the soldiers in his
company and with Simon Pierre Denys de Bonaventure on the latter's alleged
affair with the widow D'Amours de Freneuse, Louise Guyon.

The question as to whether de Goutin was suited to his duties in Acadia
recurred during the governorship of Jacques Francois de Brouillan
[Mombeton]. Though the new governor's first impression of de Goutin was
favourable, he soon reported that de Goutin was "hardly in a position to
make good judgements. . .because a third of the settlers are relatives of
his wife." De Goutin agreed to refer cases involving his wife's relatives
to the king's attorney. Brouillan then contended that because of the extent
and variety of his duties, de Goutin "has trouble doing any one of his jobs
well". Indeed, de Goutin himself complained that he had "no set time for
drinking and eating, [for I am more busy on feast days and Sundays than on\
working days [because] the settlers use these days to conduct their business
when they come to Mass." Brouillan's most serious contention was that de
Goutin was leading a cabal of officers aimed at undermining the governor's
authority. To this de Goutin somewhat facetiously replied that what the
governor called a cabal was nothing more than "three or four friends,
honourable people, who are close because they like each other's company. .
.[and who are] called cabalists . . . because they have not bowed before the
beast."

By contrast, de Goutin's relations with Governor Auger de Subercase were
strikingly cordial. The minister had issued the terse warning to de Goutin:
"Should you give him cause for complaint. . . you would not be able to stay
in this country." De Goutin appears to have been very careful and, in 1707,
Subercase advised the minister that he "fulfills properly the duties of his
office." The minister in turn appeared to show increased confidence in de
Goutin for, 1708 and again in 1710, he instructed him in no uncertain terms
to report everything that might appear contrary to the king's interest,
including Subercase's conduct.

Following the surrender of Port Royal to Francis Nicholson in 1710, de
Goutin returned to France with his family in 1711. In 1714 he was appointed
king's writer at ILe Royale. After his death on Christmas day 1714, his
widow and children remained at ILe Royale where for a time they received
rations from the crown. Their eldest son, Francois Marie, followed his
father into the civil administration of ILe Royale and at least five
daughters married officers, four in ILe Royale.

Traditionally, Mathieu de Goutin has been described, somewhat unfairly, as
an "unscrupulous mischief maker." Though his arrogance and vanity are quite
apparent, it would appear nevertheless that he was a capable official.
Indeed, his superiors persisted in recognizing this for 22 years. Because
one of the functions of effective civil officials was to serve as a
restraint upon the otherwise near-absolute power of the governor, it is
perhaps as much for this reason, as for his alliances among the inhabitants,
that Mathieu de Goutin also enjoyed the confidence of the Acadian peasantry,
who had acquired long before a natural distaste for the inflexibility of
colonial administration.
     
Children of *Jeanne Thibodeau and *Mathieu de Goutin are:
  80 i.   *Francois-Marie3 de Goutin, born Abt. 169020; died January 05, 1751/52 in Port Lajolie20. He married (1) *Marie-Angelique Aubert20 May 20, 1719 in Louisbourg20; born August 11, 1699 in Quebec20; died October 17, 1729 in Louisbourg20. He married (2) Marie-Angelique Puyperoux de La Fosse April 09, 1736 in Louisbourg20.
  More About *Francois-Marie de Goutin:
Burial: January 06, 1751/52, Port Lajolie20

  More About *Marie-Angelique Aubert:
Baptism: August 12, 1699, Quebec20
Burial: October 18, 1729, Louisbourg20
  81 ii.   *Alexandre-Abraham de Goutin20, born Abt. 169220; died Aft. November 19, 175020.
  82 iii.   *Marie-Anne de Goutin20, born Abt. 1694; died November 19, 175020. She married (1) *Michel Dupont de Renon February 26, 1709/10 in Port Royal, Acadia20. She married (2) *Michel Hertel de Cournoyer20 Abt. 172520.
  83 iv.   *Mathieu de Goutin20, born Abt. 169820; died Bef. November 19, 175020.
  More About *Mathieu de Goutin:
Note: Never married20
  84 v.   *Marguerite de Goutin20, born Abt. 170120; died Bef. November 19, 175020. She married *---- de Saint-Remy20.
  85 vi.   *Jacques de Goutin20, born Abt. 170220; died Bef. November 19, 175020.
  More About *Jacques de Goutin:
Note: Never Married20
  86 vii.   *Marie-Josephte de Goutin20, born Abt. 170220; died November 24, 1728 in Quebec20.
  87 viii.   *Antoine Des Goutin20, born July 23, 1703 in Port Royal, Acadia20; died Bef. November 19, 175020.
  More About *Antoine Des Goutin:
Note: Never Married20
  88 ix.   *Joseph "de Ville" de Goutin20, born March 19, 1704/05 in Port Royal, Acadia20; died 177820. He married *Marie-Jeanne Caron.
  More About *Joseph "de Ville" de Goutin:
Baptism: March 20, 1704/05, Port Royal, Acadia20
Burial: 20
Died: Before 1778 Census20
  89 x.   *Jeanne de Goutin20, born April 07, 170720; died December 19, 1758 in LaRochelle, France20. She married *Georges-Francois Duboisberthelot20 October 15, 1730 in Louisbourg20.
  More About *Jeanne de Goutin:
Burial: December 20, 1758, LaRochelle, France20
  90 xi.   *Madeleine de Goutin20, born November 10, 1708 in Port Royal, Acadia20; died 174720. She married *Pierre-Jerome Boucher20 Abt. 1732 in Port-Dauphin20.
  More About *Madeleine de Goutin:
Baptism: November 11, 1708, Port Royal, Acadia20
  91 xii.   *Louise-Francoise de Goutin20, born 171120. She married *Francois-de Paul Sabatier20 March 04, 1730/31 in Louisbourg20.
  92 xiii.   *Girl de Goutin20, born 171520.
  More About *Girl de Goutin:
Born: Before 1715 census20

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