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Descendants of William Mabe


684. MATTIE6 WINESETT (ELIZABETH5 MABE, WILLIAM4, ROBERT3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born November 16, 1891, and died October 1971. She married HUSBAND FRAZIER.
     
Children of MATTIE WINESETT and HUSBAND FRAZIER are:
  i.   LILLY7 FRAZIER, m. HUSBAND GRIMES.
  ii.   LINA HEATH FRAZIER, m. HUSBAND STONE.
  iii.   JAMES FRAZIER.
  iv.   IRA FRAZIER.
  v.   HULDA FRAZIER.
  vi.   CALLY FRAZIER.
  vii.   CASSIE FRAZIER.
  viii.   LOMA FRAZIER.
  ix.   LAVELLA FRAZIER.


685. EDWARD LEE6 MABE (WILLIAM LEE5, ALEXANDER4, ROBERT3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1870 in Pulaski County, Virginia. He married (1) MARY E. BOWMAN November 20, 1887 in Tazewell County, Virginia, daughter of A. BOWMAN and SARAH UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1869 in Tazewell County, Virginia. He married (2) MEMPHIS ADA TAYLOR April 07, 1906 in Pulaski County, Virginia, daughter of WILLIAM TAYLOR and NANCY UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1881 in Pulaski County, Virginia.

Notes for EDWARD LEE MABE:
CENSUS YR: 1900 STATE or TERRITORY: VA COUNTY: Pulaski
Mabe, Edward June 1871, married 9 years, Virginia
Mabe, Mauren June 1875, had three children, two living
(I had her as M.E.)
Mabe, Oscar G. July 1896, Virginia
Mabe, Shelby G. May 1899; a male; Virginia


CENSUS YR: 1910 STATE or TERRITORY: VA COUNTY: Pulaski
Mabe, Edward (39, VA), Ada (29, VA), Oscar (13, VA), Shellie (11, VA), and May (3, VA)

CENSUS YR: 1920 STATE or TERRITORY: VA COUNTY: Pulaski
Mabe, Ed L (48, VA), Ada M (38, VA), Oscar G (22, VA), May C (12, VA), Thomas E (6, VA), Fred L (2 4/12, VA), Mason (7/12)
     
Children of EDWARD MABE and MARY BOWMAN are:
1744. i.   OSCAR GLENN7 MABE, b. July 20, 1898; d. April 13, 1971.
  ii.   SHELLIE MABE, b. Abt. May 1899, Pulaski County, Virginia; d. July 1963; m. (1) MAUREEN E. UNKNOWN; m. (2) MAMIE CARNELL, July 23, 1919, Pulaski County, Virginia; b. Abt. 1902, Pulaski County, Virginia.
  Notes for SHELLIE MABE:
CENSUS YR: 1920 STATE or TERRITORY: VA COUNTY: Pulaski
Mabe, SG (20, VA) and Mamie (17, VA)

  More About SHELLIE MABE:
Burial: July 24, 1963, Highland Memory Garden
Occupation: Bridgeman

  More About MAUREEN E. UNKNOWN:
Burial: Highland Memory Garden
     
Children of EDWARD MABE and MEMPHIS TAYLOR are:
1745. iii.   CALLIE MAE7 MABE, b. May 11, 1906, Pulaski County, Virginia; d. July 18, 1992.
  iv.   THOMAS E. MABE, b. Abt. 1914.
1746. v.   FRED LINCOLN MABE, b. Abt. 1917; d. May 1987.
1747. vi.   MASON JUNIOR MABE, b. June 27, 1919, Delton, Pulaski Co., Virginia; d. November 03, 2000.


686. IDA FLORENCE6 MABE (WILLIAM LEE5, ALEXANDER4, ROBERT3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born 1872 in McDowell County, West Virgina. She married ROBERT GARWOOD August 03, 1890 in Pulaski County, Virginia, son of L. GARWOOD and L. UNKNOWN. He was born Abt. 1868 in Durham, North Carolina.
     
Children of IDA MABE and ROBERT GARWOOD are:
  i.   ARTHUR7 GARWOOD.
1748. ii.   WILLIE PEARL GARWOOD, b. May 29, 1898; d. November 25, 1987, Oh., Muskingum Co., Zanesville.
1749. iii.   OMER ELKIN GARWOOD, b. June 09, 1910; d. May 30, 1984.


687. LAURA ELLEN6 MABE (WILLIAM LEE5, ALEXANDER4, ROBERT3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Bet. 1874 - 1875 in West Virgina, and died 1962. She married (1) T. G.. WARDEN June 24, 1894 in Pulaski County, Virginia, son of WILLIAM WARDEN and M. UNKNOWN. He was born Abt. 1859 in Pulaski County, Virginia. She married (2) GEORGE F. GROSECLOSE January 05, 1898 in Pulaski County, Virginia, son of ELIJAH GROSECLOSE and M. UNKNOWN. He was born Abt. 1870 in Wythe County, Virginia, and died October 11, 1925.

More About LAURA ELLEN MABE:
Burial: November 02, 1962, Highland Memory Garden in Draper, Pulaski County

Notes for GEORGE F. GROSECLOSE:
Virginia 1910 Census Miracode Index Pulaski Co., ED0048 Visit 0029
Goerge Groceclose Husband W 43 Virginia 1867
Wife Laura 33, W VA 1877
Son Cloyd 10, Virginia 1900
Daughter Georgia 08, Virginia 1902
Son William 03, Virginia 1907
Stepson Carl Warden 14, Virginia 1896
Father-in-law William Mabe 67, Virginia 1843


More About GEORGE F. GROSECLOSE:
Burial: Davis Cemetery in Cripple Creek
     
Child of LAURA MABE and T. WARDEN is:
  i.   CARL7 WARDEN, b. Abt. 1896.
     
Children of LAURA MABE and GEORGE GROSECLOSE are:
  ii.   CLOYD7 GROSECLOSE, b. Abt. 1900.
  iii.   GEORGIA C. GROSECLOSE, b. Abt. 1902, Virginia.
  iv.   WILLIAM H. GROSECLOSE, b. Abt. 1908, Virginia.


688. PRUDENCE 'BERTA'6 CHRISLEY (HANNAH5 MABE, ALEXANDER4, ROBERT3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. December 1871 in Pulaski County, Virginia, and died Bet. 1905 - 1910. She married JOHN MABE Abt. 1892. He was born Abt. 1864 in North Carolina.

Notes for PRUDENCE 'BERTA' CHRISLEY:
I think that is how we'll have to go. Especially if Jettie gave the name of Prudence Christley as her mother's maiden name on her marriage certificate. Also explains why Frances was with a Christley. I found the record for the younger Prudence. I'm puzzled by the"Berta," but it may be the same as in the email I just sent about Robert Christley being known at one time as Lee and at another as Robert.

Thanks again,
Susan
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Jo Loyd
To: Susan Buckley ; jamesmabe123@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Missing relatives


Susan,

For now, I am treating Prudence and Berta as the same woman. Jettie's middle name was Alberta, so I suspect Alberta is Berta's proper name and it's possible that her full name was Prudence Alberta (or Alberta Prudence).

I really wouldn't think Jettie would slam the door in Frances' face simply because Frances may have been a legitimate child.

There are two Prudence Christley's. The other one that you saw was 50 years older and married to Alexander Mabe. They are the grandparents of the younger Prudence (parents of Hannah Mabe).

Mary Jo

At 10:20 PM 7/19/2006, Susan Buckley wrote:

Jim and Mary Jo,

Okay, this is starting to get more complicated! Maybe an affair is the explanantion for the door begin slammed in my grandmother's face by Jettie. I, too, saw the Prudence Christley listing on ancestry.com as Jettie's mother, but I discounted that when I saw Berta listed as mother in the 1900 census. I did find the SSDI for Jettie on ancestry, so I am sending for her original SSN application.

In the 1920 census, John Shockley is living with Ollie and Robert Christley - grandfather. The Shockley name again shows up on the marriage cetificate. If John Mabe is Jettie's father, then maybe my grandmother was illegitimate and was just told her parents died? She even had a picture of Ollie Christley from a time when she was an adult and went back to Max Meadows to visit. I have that picture.

In ances.com, Prudence Christley is also listed as a Mabe wife aother generation back - multiple lives? Multiple identities? She sure got around! Wonder how I can dig deeper on this? Since Jettie's middle name is Alberta, maybe that was her mother's name, too. Maybe Berta is the one who died prior to 1910.

I'll never get to sleep tonight wondering about all of this. Mary Jo, thank you so much for having Jane look up these things. As you can see, I am desperate. This is a tough one to understand! Anything and everything is deeply appreciated.

Susan

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Jo Loyd

To: jamesmabe123@comcast.net ; Susan Buckley

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:15 PM

Subject: Re: Missing relatives


Jim and Susan,


I had Janie look for a death record in that time frame - unfortunately there are no records to consult. She even checked a few cemeteries. Of course, she's just looking at Wythe Co. records and we now know Pulaski Co. figures in here.


Mary Jo


At 09:00 PM 7/19/2006, jamesmabe123@comcast.net wrote:

Mary Jo and Susan,



Prudy's birth (Dec 1871) falls in line with the marriage date of William and Hannah. They were married in Jan of 1871. In the 1900 census Berta's birth is listed as Oct 1874 (I don't trust census birth info). They were married for 8 years, with 2 children (has to be Jettie and Robert), both were still living. It's possible Berta was a nickname or an abbreviation of her middle name, maybe Roberta or Bertha. I doubt Jettie was the product of an illicit affair. At least we have the tie for Francis to Ollie and Robert. Ironically, in my on-line book I have Jettie's mother's name as Prudence Chrisley (her age was wrong). I got that information on ancestry.com.



Does Wythe county have death records for the early 1900s? Maybe, Prudence/Berta's death information might be available. She died in the 1906-1910 time-frame.



Send my thanks to Janie,



Jim




-------------- Original message --------------
From: Mary Jo Loyd <mjloyd@italygenes.com>
Hi Susan and Jim
My friend, Janie Dillon, examined the marriage license for Jettie Mabe and Robert Riggins.
Here is what she reported:
Original License
Oct 24, 1912
Robert Riggins, 20, Wythe Co Jettie Alberta Mabe, 16, Pulaski Co
John Riggins John Mabe
Roxie Shockley Prudy Christley
Also listed in Marriage Register #3, page 157, line 82 , but I had to look at the original because I couldn't make out Prudy in the register--looked like Preesy.
Seeing her mother was Prudy not Berta, raises some new questions - for instance - are they the same woman; if not, were John and Prudy Christley married or were they having an affair.
This marriage does explain the connection with Uncle Robert Lee Christley and his wife Aunt Ollie Craddock Mabe. Robert is the son of William Christley and Hannah Mabe. I checked the Pulaski birth's at Ancestry and found William and Hannah did in fact have a daughter named Prudence:
Pulaski County, Virginia Births, 1853-93 Record
Name: PRUDENCE CHRISLEY
Birth Date: DEC 1871
Race: W
Sex: F
Father's Name: WILLIAM
Mother's Name: HANNAH
Page #: 63
Jim - for your files, I found another child (although this might be Riley W - I have no date for him):
Pulaski County, Virginia Births, 1853-93 Record
Name: WILLIAM CRISLEY
Birth Date: JUL 1873
Race: W
Sex: M
Father's Name: WILLIAM
Mother's Name: HANNAH
Page #: 75
I could NOT find the Christley family (William and Hannah and kids) in the 1880 census - I really wanted to see how Prudence was listed.
Appreciate your thoughts on all of this.
Mary Jo
At 09:17 PM 7/18/2006, Susan Buckley wrote:
Thanks, Jim and Mary Jo. I have my grandmother's death certificate. It was completed by her second husband, and the only thing listed for both parents is: UNKNOWN. On various birth certificates for her children, she lists her maiden name as either Mabe, Christley, or Johnson. Each of my father's siblings has a diffrent maiden name on the birth certificate. All we think we know for sure is that her name was Frances Ellen Mabe, sister Jettie, brother Robert, parents died prior to 1910 when she was living with her aunt and uncle. I think the idea about getting Jettie's death certificate is a great idea.

The reason I have connected Arnold Mabe to John is that in the 1880 census, Arnold (age 78) is married to Sarah (Carner) age 40, with son John age 16. Arnold and Sarah we re both born in NC, John in VA. At first, I was connecting the younger Arnold Mabe to John, but it was the OLDER (busy guy). Now when I go back and look, I see that John Mabe in the 1900 census lists his place of birth as NC. Seems like I need to look elsewhere, unless I consider an error there. I'm stumped. I've tried John Mabe in NC, but I come up cold in that search.

Mary Jo, I would really appreciate the info from Jettie's marriage certificate. I'll write for a copy of her death certificate. The idea about contacting some living relatives is also a great way to go. I jst feel so far removed from the area, and I'm fairly new at this.

Thank you both so much for all your help. Stay in touch if you find out anything else.
Susan

----- Original Message -----
From: jamesmabe123@comcast.net
To: Susan Buckley
Cc: Mary Loyd
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Missing relatives
Hi Susan,
Thanks for writing. I'm CCing Mary Jo Loyd. She has a lot of infomation on the Wythe County Mabes, unfortunately she or I do not have any information on your grandmother's family. When I saw your Mabe-L post I sent it to Mary Jo.
The 1910 census that listed Frances as a niece to Robert Lee Christley and Ollie Craddock Mabe Christley is also a mystery to us. It would seem that Frances' mother or father would be a sister or brother to one of them. Their families are well documented and we do not see that relationship there.
The best bet in solving the parentage is Frances' death certificate. That certificate should list her parents names. If she drew social security before she died, then those records might have that information. If you strike out there, then I suggest that you get the death certificate of her sister, Jettie. She died on January 24, 1990. Her SSN is 230-40-5555 and her last residence was Evington, Campbell, Virginia. Maybe her records would have some information. Also I have the obituary for Jettie's son, George Vernon Riggins (attached at the bottom of this message). Maybe you can contact his children and they might have some information. Hopefully, they won't treat you the same way Jettie treated your grandmother. Wouldn't be great that they would have the answers to your questions?
How did you tie your John to Arnold Mabe? I have Arnold's John marrying Julia Ann Elizabeth Leticia Nelson in 1885 and they had children in the same time frame as John and Berta. I received this information from Lena Hopkins. That doesn't mean your information is wrong and mine is right. I would like to compare the sources.
Mary Jo, do you have more to add??
Good Hunting,
Jim
GEORGE VERNON RIGGINS
WYTHEVILLE — George Vernon Riggins, age 84, of Wytheville, passed away Wednesday, April 30, 2003 in the Wythe County Community Hospital. He was born in Wythe County, Sept. 24, 1918, son of the late Robert and Jettie Mabe Riggins. He was retired from Coleman Furniture Factory and was a United States Army Veteran of World War II. He was preceded in death by a daughter, Brenda Bear and two brothers and two sisters. He is survived by his wife, Peggy Six Riggins; two daughters, Joyce Brown, Dublin, Linda Cox, Pulaski; seven grandchildren; six great-grandchildren also survive. A graveside memorial service will be held Saturday, May 3, at 11 a.m. West End Cemetery with the Rev. Mike Ingo officiating there will be no visitation at the funeral home. Barnett Funeral
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Susan Buckley" <susan.buckley@cox.net>
Hi, Jim,

I have some information to share, and also some missing information that I'm not sure how to obtain. In your wonderful (thank you!) research, you list an unknown "Fannie E. Mabe, age 6" n the 1910 census. That is my grandmother, Frances Ellen Mabe, who was raised for several years by her uncle, Robert Lee Chrisley (or Christley) and aunt Ollie Craddock Mabe. She told my dad (now deceased), that she was an orphan, and that Jettie Mabe (born 1896, Wythe), was her sister, and Robert Mabe (b. 1898) was her brother. I found them and their parents - John and Berta Mabe - in the 1900 census. They disappear after my grandmother was born in 1905. I looked carefully at your records, but there is only a note that John Mabe died before 1910. This is consistent with what my grandmother told us. I have no idea who Berta Mabe's family was. I have been trying to make some links to fill in major missing i nformation.& nbsp; John's father was Arnold Mabe, born in 1805 (he was on at least his second marriage by the time John was born).

This is such a mystery to me. I recently joined the Wythe Genealogical Society, and I was contacted by Nita Atwood (husband Jim), and she gave me your name. Your research is both extensive and incredible in scope. I work for Fairfax County Schools as a counselor, so my summers are devoted to family research. Can you give me a direction? Good next step? I would love to go to Wythe and look for all of this, but I don't know if that will happen in the near future - but I will make sure it happens. Supposedly, my grandmother, Frances Ellen Mabe, left Wythe at the age of thriteen to go somewhere in Richmond, VA, for nursing training. She ended up in Clifton, Farfax County, VA, at the Ivakota Farm (a home for unwed mothers - I don't know if she worked there or was an unwed mother) and there she met my father's dad, Carroll Walter Buckley (whose family settled in Clifton since the 1700's from Ir eland). ; I can find no trace of my grandmother in the 1920 census - I have scoured records looking for anything even similar to her name. During her lifetime, she gave her maiden name as: Mabe, Christley, and Johnson on different official records. She told my dad that when she was an adult, she went back to Max Meadows to see her sister, Jettie A. Mabe (married to Robert Riggins), and Jettie slammed the door in her face.

My father's family was very poor, and he told us about going to visit grandma's other relatives in Max Meadows. They walked to there from Clifton and slept in hay stacks. Of course, before my dad died, I didn't realize how very important all of this information would become to me one day.

I belong to ancestry.com, and I'm familiar with looking up records on their site, but I am a novice when it comes to researching other records. I do know enough to realize that I believe nothing until I see it for myself and have a copy in hand. I have some pictures that my grandma had from a visit to Max Meadows - cold I send them to you to see if you can recognize any of the people? My father's only living sibling, his sister, was too young to remember any of this. It is lost.

I would appreciate any and all help. I anxiously look forward to your reply.

Susan Buckley
4424 Middle Ridge Drive
Fairfax, VA 22033
703-802-2211
     
Children of PRUDENCE CHRISLEY and JOHN MABE are:
1750. i.   JETTIE ALBERTA7 MABE, b. March 26, 1896, Virginia; d. January 24, 1990.
  ii.   ROBERT MABE, b. Abt. 1898, Virginia.
1751. iii.   FRANCES ELLEN MABE, b. May 18, 1905, Max Meadows, Wythe County, Virginia; d. August 14, 1968, Washington DC.


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