James Roach66 was born 1763 in Charleston SC66, and died February 04, 1848 in Greene Co IN66. He married Fanny Lawrence on 180066.
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James Roach moved to TN between 1800 and 1802. He remained in Know Co TN until about 1812. James Roach owned land in Roane Co prior to 1812. He lived in Roane and Monroe Co until 1831. Ayres Goad owned land next to that of Aaron Roach about 1824.
1830 census Monroe Co TN Roach James 001110001 01000001 148 150, 1 m 10-15, 1 m 15-20, 1 m 20-30, 1 m 60-70, 1 f 5-10, 1 f 50-60, 1 m slave under 10, 4 m slaves 10-24, 8 m slaves 24-36, 1 f slave under 10, 5 f slaves 10-24
Roach William 00001 100001 139 96 1 m 20-30, 1 female under 5, 1 female 30-40, 1 m slave under 10, 3 m slaves 10-24, 6 m slaves 24-36, 9 female slaves under 10, 6 f slaves 10-24
Roach Aron 120001 112001 148 153 1 m under 5, 2 m 5-10, 1 m 30-40, 1 f under 5, 1 f 5-10, 2 f 10-15, 1 f 30-40, 1 m slave under 10, 4 m slaves 10-24, 8 m slaves 24-36, 1 f slave under 10, 5 f slaves 10-24, 3 female slaves 24-36
Roach David 00001 21001 149 158 1 m 20-30, 2 f under 5, 1 f 5-10, 1 f 20-30, 1 m slave under 10, 4 m slaves 10-24, 9 m slaves 24-36, 1 f slave under 10, 5 f slaves 10-24, 8 f slaves 24-36
Roach John 10001 0000101 149 160 1 m under 5, 1 m 20-30, 1 f 20-30, 1 f 40-50, 1 m slave under 10, 4 m slaves 10-24, 9 m slaves 24-36, 1 f slave under 10, 6 f slaves 10-24
Unsure who Andrew is. Roach Andrew 00001 00001 142 115 1 m 20-30, 1 f 20-30, 1 male slave under 10, 4 m slaves 10-24, 2 male slaves 24-36, 1 female slave under 10, 1 f slave 10-24, 5 female slaves 24-36
From "James Roach of Greene County, Indiana and Descendants" by Dorthea Roach Edgerly, MA
From Whence We Came Roach, Roache, Roch, Roche
Although, Roche is not an indigenous Gaelic Irish surname it can nevertheless, be regarded as exclusively Irish French, emigrant families. It is French in origin -de la roche (of the rock)-and came to Ireland at the time of the Anglo-Norman invasion in the twelfth century. In the medieval period the name was often written de Rupe (Latine rupes, a rock). In the same way de Ruperfort is equivalent to Rochfort, the name of a Hiberno-Norman family whose long association with County Westmeath is perpetuated in the village of Rochfortbridge. The first Roche families probably originated in the Pyrenese Mountains of Southern France prior to 820, before the time of Charlemagne. Some families migrate to Ireland with the first Norman settlers in 1159. It has been recorded that the family took its name from Roch Castle, which was built on a great rock located on the peninsula between Haverford West and St. David's Pembrokeshire. The ruins of the old castle can still be seen at Castle Widenham, Castletownroche.
There is no documentation of our ancestry beyond James Roach, born about 1763/5. However, family legend indicates that James' family moved from the Charleston area to the mountain area of North Carolina during the Revolutionary War. About that time, Charleston was under the control of the English General Cornwallis who was not adverse to the hanging of "those rebels" who opposed the Crown. The Roach family felt it prudent to be elsewhere. After moving the family to safety, the men again joined the fighting. There was, during this period, a James Roach of Charleston, a rope maker, who died in 1780, hopefully, not by his own product. His will dated July 12, 1780 mentions his wife, Elizabeth, but no other family member. The scarcity of early records in North and South Carolina and the abundance of James, John, and William Roaches' have made the search most difficult. Hopefully, additional records will be discovered and future family researchers will be able to document the connections. North Carolina records for Rowan, Rockingham, Orange, and Surry Counties have been searched without being able to document the James Roach of this study. There is one account of a James Roach on the Surry County tax list, 1775. This record would have been too early for our James. John and Thomas Roach owned land in Surry County in the late 1700's. No probate records were found for either John or Thomas. It is the author's opinion, that if James and his family did in fact, goes to North Carolina, they soon moved on to Virginia. There has been a long an unusually close relationship between the Roach and Goad families. In fact, over the years there have been several Roach-Goad marriages. Once again, we go to the legend of the Joshua Roach family, which contends that this relationship began in England, soon after the French Huguenot family of Roach fled to England and the sister of our Roach ancestor married a Goad. There is no documentation for this legend. A member of the Goad family arrived in Virginia at an early date. Therefore, it seemed prudent to search the Virginia counties, which were domiciles of Goad family members for information on our Roach ancestors. To date, no probate record has been found that names the father of our James Roach. There were, of course, many James Roachs'. It is believed that such a probate record for James' father would also provide names of James' brothers, which probably were William, Littleberry, Jordan, John, Littleton, and etc. The author believes the James Roach who married Frances Collier or Collyer, July 18, 1793, Montgomery County, Virginia, is our ancestor. Frances Collier was the daughter of Aaron Collier. James' first son, William was born in 1794. The second son, Aaron, great, great grandfather of the author, was born in 1796. He was probably named after his grandfather Aaron Collier. Littleberry was the third son of this marriage. James Roach bought one hundred acres of land in Grayson County, Virginia from Henry Webb, June 20, 1798, for twenty-five pounds. He sold this land October 6, 1800, to Jonathan Hiatt. Apparently, Frances (Collier) Roach died before 1800, and in the next year or so James married Fanny Lawrence, daughter of Joseph Lawrence of Surry County, North Carolina. It would seem likely that this second marriage took place in Surry County, but no record of the marriage has been found. The exact departure date is unknown, but James and his family embarked for Tennessee between 1800 and 1802, as his son, Joshua, was born April 16, 1802, in Tennessee. Their travel route probably took them through the Cumberland Gap and on to Knox County, Tennessee. A brief history of Tennessee, which describes the life of the early Tennessee frontiersman, is now included.
The names of James Roach and John Roach appear on the 1806, East Tennessee list of taxpayers. James was taxed on one hundred acres of land. His name appears with other taxpayers under Capt. Chiles Company. James remained in Knox County until about 1812. It was in Knox County that William Roach and his brother, Aaron, enlisted in the 40th Regiment, East Tennessee Volunteers, September 20, 1814, War of 1812. They were in Capt. Charles Conway's Company of Maj. Chiles Brigade. Jordan Roach is listed on the Knox county, 1806, tax list. He had five hundred acres of land. He also owned land in Greene County, Tennessee. His name appears in various land transactions during the early years of settlement in Tennessee. Jordan may have been James' brother. Another brother may have been Littleton Roach of Roane County who married Lucy Fanen, March 20, 1809, Knox County. Littleton was in Roane County prior to and during the time James Roach lived there. In the 1830, Roane County Census Index, Littleton's household is said to contain three males and six females under the age of thirty, one female age between thirty and forty; and one male age forty to fifty. This family is nor recorded in the Census record after 1830 and no further information is know in regard to them. In 1801, Roane County was created from Indian lands. The Third and Fourth Treaties of Telleco cleared all land north of Walden Ridge in Roane and Morgan Counties and the land west of Emery River of Indian Title. James Roach owned land in Roane County prior to 1812. There are records of three purchases of additional parcels of land adjacent to the property on which he resided. These parcels were located along the Big Emery River. James operated a mill on his plantation. James Roach's' name is listed with other local citizens on a petition and ordered by the Court that five of them be sworn in for the purpose, "Do View and Mark a Road the Nearest and best way from Uptons Trace in Roane County to Intersect Piles Turnpike Road at or near William Davidsons and Report to the next Court April Session 1817". In 1819, Monroe County, which lies partly in the Tennessee Valley and partly in the Unaka Mountains, was created. It encompassed lands that were originally a part of Roane County. However, the greater part of the new county was land, which had been included in the Hiwassee District and was included in the Hiwassee Purchase. The Roach property was located between the Hiawassee and Little Tennessee Rivers, not far from Madisonville. Whether the Roach property was in the area of Roane County, which became Monroe County or James purchased another parcel of land is not known, but he lived in Monroe County after its creation. Little is known about the Roach family during its sojourn in Tennessee for few accounts of its presence has been recorded. It is certain that the Roachs' assumed their responsibility in political and social affairs.
Ayres Goad owned land located next to that of Aaron Roach about 1824, Aaron's brother Joshua Roach married Margaret "Peggy" Goad. Joshua and Peggy lived on the James Roach plantation until about 1828/9, when a group of their Tennessee neighbors decided to seek land in the wilderness of Indiana. Lured by the low price of the land, these sturdy pioneers were ready to meet the challenge unsettled land had to offer. This group of people was opposed to slavery and was reluctant to live where slavery was the accepted mode of life. Besides, to them, Tennessee was becoming quite crowded. Joshua and Peggy roach joined this group of pioneers, taking with them only the possessions they could transport. An account of Joshua and Peggy is included in the biographical section of this volume. Most of the Roach children grew to adulthood and married in Monroe County between the years 1819 and 1830. Unfortunately, the Monroe County Marriage Records for this period of time have been lost. James, William, Aaron, John, and David Roach are listed in the 1830 Monroe County Census Index. Andrew Roach also is listed in 1830. Although, he may or may not have been related, he was not in the immediate family. All, except Andrew, were owners of plantations and owned slaves. James owned six; William five; Aaron nine; John four; and David five. Although, they owned slaves and needed their labor to operate the plantations they were opposed to slavery. One can realize this strong conviction by noting they emancipated their slave over thirty years before the Civil War. This was no little economical consideration, the selling price of slave ranged from about three hundred to one thousand dollars each. In preparation for the journey to Greene County, Indiana, Aaron Roach sold two parcels of land to his long time friend and neighbor, Ayres Goad whom later, followed the Roach family to Indiana. In the early 1830's, Aaron sold the last of his land and his father James sold his plantation. They emancipated their slaves, loaded the possessions they could transport and set out to join Joshua Roach in Greene County, Indiana. At this time, James' sons' Littleton, James Mathias and Henry were unmarried and accompanied their parents. Jordan Roach and his family also joined the group. It is believed that this trek took place about 1831-32. This journey took them through much of Tennessee, Kentucky and Knox County, Indiana.
James, the patriarch of the Roach family was about sixty-seven years of age when the family moved from Tennessee to Indiana. James obtained property in Richland Township upon his arrival and constructed the Ore Branch house, which became the Roach residence. James had owned and operated mills in Tennessee and soon built two mills in Richland Township. One was located on Bridge Creek, the other on Clifty Creek. The Clifty Creek mill was operated only one year before it was destroyed by and over abundance of water rushing down the creek, but the Bridge Creek mill was operated for many years.
The descendants of Joshua, John, Littleton, Jordan, and Henry Roach lived for many years in Greene County. Later, some of them moved to Lawrence County, Indiana. To date, 1986, several of these descendants still reside in the Bloomfield vicinity. Part of the original Roach farm is still owned by members of the Roach family.
From Ken Haas I have a lot of Roach data but these seem the most pertinent items. James Roach married Frances Collier in ca 1795 Montgomery County,Virginia (area now Carrol). About the same time Ayers Goad m. Edith Collier, likely a sister of Frances and both daughters of an Aaron Coller whose wife was Elizabeth Goad. Later in Kentucky, Margaret Goad, daughter of Ayers, married Joshua Roach This couple that went to Greene as well as Ayers and it was probably their son Henry who was a Mexican War Veteran. His widow re-married Henry Goad, son of Ayers.(She was born a Simpkins). Your Sarah Dobbins was possibly a daughter of Joshua and Margaret. Later on Peyton Goad m. (2) Mary Roach in 1864, Peyton was Ayers' son. In the next generation Clement Quillen Goad m. Lucy Roach born ca 1843. A John Roach. born in 1804 in Virginia, was also living in Greene County, maybe a son of James and Fanny. Don't take any of this as gospel but you get the idea. One would have to coordinate all the Green County censuses for 1840-1860 to sort out all these Roaches. These Goads and many Roaches were in Monroe County, Tenn. in 1830 before leaving for Greene and they must have paused in Kentucky where Margaret was born . She was still on the 1870-80 censuses for Greene. The Roaches in 1830 Monroe County, Tenn. were William,James,John, David, Andrew and Aaron !!! There is no easy way to sort all of these out except to tackle the census records. -- Ken Haas
History of Greene County, Indiana Chapter 6
Several of James Roach's sons were probably grown when they came to the county. The old gentleman, "Uncle Jimmy" as he was generally called, was a very singular man. We don't suppose he ever had a personal enemy. In early times, when he was quite old, he often went to Bloomfield and remained several days on a spree. He always had money, and there were very few boys if any in town then to whom he did not give money, and treat to gingerbread. In that day gingerbread was regarded as the highest gift that could be given to a boy. He was as honest as "old honesty" himself, and not a business man in town but was willing to leave him alone in his house through the day or all night, whether intoxicated or sober. When under the influence of liquor he was always quiet, and talked a great deal to himself. He used to repeat, time after time, these words, "who wants to make a fuss about nothing? Peace belongs to everybody." Whether intoxicated or sober, he always had plenty of friends. The town boys, who usually play tricks on persons who were drinking, never molested him, nor would they allow any one else to molest or play tricks on him. Men and boys were always ready to espouse his cause, and when necessary, take care of him.
Legend for Males & Females Columns:1840 Census Greene Co IN
1=Under 5 years 2=5 to under 10 3=10 to under 15 4=15 to under 20 5=20 to under 30 6=30 to under 40 7=40 to under 50 8=50 to under 60 9=60 to under 70 10=70 to under 80
Roach, James 0200010001 000000001 2 males 5-10, 1 m 30-40, 1 m 70-80, 1 female 60-70
From page 426 of "James Roach of Greene County" The James Roach estate was ordered to be sold and Ephraim Jackson was the highest bidder. It was located at the east half of the south west quarter of section twenty-one (21) in township seven (7) North of Range five (5) containing Eighty acres more or less. This is west of Bloomfield just east of White River. Perhaps the Range is incorrect Range 4 sections 21 is NW of Park on Ore Branch Creek which is where the above story indicates he lived.
James and Fanny's stones are about 10 rows from the south and 9 rows from the west at Walnut Grove Cemetery. His son Joshua and grandson Henry are buried nearby.
More About James Roach: Burial: February 04, 1848, Walnut Grove Cemetery.67, 68 Nationality: Irish.68
More About James Roach and Fanny Lawrence: Marriage: 180068