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      154708. Pain De Tiptoft, born Abt. 1360; died Unknown. He was the son of 309416. Sir John Tibetot Baron Tiptoft and 309417. Elizabeth Aspall. He married 154709. Agnes Wroth.

      154709. Agnes Wroth, born Abt. 1360 in Of Enfield, Middlesex; died Unknown. She was the daughter of 309418. Sir John Wroth and 309419. Margaret Bockland.

More About Pain De Tiptoft:
Lineage: Ancestor of the Earls of Worcester
Surname Variant: De Tibetot

Child of Pain De Tiptoft and Agnes Wroth is:

77354

Sir John De Tibetot Baron Tiptoft, born Bef. 1392; died 27 Jan 1441/42; married (1) Joyce Charlton; married (2) Philippa Talbot.

      154710. Sir Edward Charlton KG Baron Charlton Of Powys, born 1371; died 1421. He was the son of 309420. Sir John III Charlton Baron Charlton Of Powys and 309421. Joan Stafford. He married 116843. Eleanor Holland 1399.

      116843. Eleanor Holland, born 1373 in Upholland, Lancashire; died 18 Oct 1405. She was the daughter of 233686. Sir Thomas II Holand KG Earl Of Kent and 233687. Lady Alice FitzAlan.

More About Sir Edward Charlton KG Baron Charlton Of Powys:
Title or Name: Baron Cherlton of Powys 4th

More About Eleanor Holland:
Lineage: 2 sisters named Eleanor

More About Edward Baron Charlton Of Powys and Eleanor Holland:
Marriage: 1399

Children of Edward Baron Charlton Of Powys and Eleanor Holland are:

		i.		Joan Charlton, born Abt. 1400; died Unknown.
	77355	ii.		Joyce Charlton, born Abt. 1403 in of Powys; died 22 Sep 1446; married (1) Sir William Stanley, Kt; married (2) Sir John De Tibetot Baron Tiptoft.

158336. Richard Selkeden, born Abt. 1380; died Unknown. He was the son of 316672. John Selkeden.

Child of Richard Selkeden is:

79168

Unknown Selkeden, born Abt. 1405; died Unknown.

      160256. John~ Backhouse, born Abt. 1358 in Sawley, Yorkshire; died Aft. 05 Feb 1428/29. He married 160257. Jenet~ Abt. 1377.

      160257. Jenet~, born Abt. 1359 in Yorkshire; died Unknown.

Notes for John~ Backhouse:
From: THE BACKUS FAMILIES OF EARLY NEW ENGLAND
Author: Reno W. Backus
Call Number: CS71.B12

ON THE EUROPEAN ORIGINS OF THE BACKUS FAMILY
Pages 1-3

Lacking concrete information, therefore, simple speculation on the subject suggests three major possibilities as to the background of the Backuses of ear New England:

1. They may have belonged to a branch of the historic Backhouse family of England, which has a long and distinguished history. Old records of the family (Ref. 8) indicate that the founder of the family was a Ranulf de Bayou, born about 1020, "step 1/2 brother of William the Conqueror, by whom he was enriched with honor in Normandy and England". One list among the family notes continues as follows, suggesting the gradual evolution of the name from the French form Bayou or Bayeux to the English equivalent, Backhouse:

"About 1100 Rannelf de Bayeux m to Nedegreet - daughter of Alan de
Lincoln
Hugh de Bayeux their son died 1196
John de Bayeu his son died without heirs male 1248
1248 (died?) Stephen his brother and heir male
1203 William de Baises
1205 Susperius de Baises m Matilda
1295 Robertus de Bayeuse
1297 Henricus de Bakhows
1540 Thomas Bakhouse Lancaster
1640 John Backhouse Yealand and Lancaster"

After 1200, references to the family became more numerous, though with varying spelling of the name. Joseph Foster's "Descendants of John Backhouse, Yeoman, of Moss Side, Near Yealand Redman, Lancashire, 1894", and his "Wills and Administrations of the Various Backhouse Families" (106, 107), list several branches of the family in the counties of Lancashire, Westmorland, Durham, York, Norfolk, Shropshire, Gloucester, Berkshire, and London. A generation ago, Admiral Sir Roger Backhouse of the Royal Navy and his brother Sir Edmund Backhouse, a writer and authority on China, were men of note in England; members of the family are active in London banking circles today. But a review of the Backhouse family records gives no clue to a William Backhouse or Backus of Norwich in the late 1500's or early 1600's. This does not rule out the possibility that our William could have been a member of a more distant and unlisted branch of the family, yet the assumption seems rather thin.

2. A second possibility is that William came from an entirely different English family, one of less note than the preceding, perhaps more restricted geographically, and with the same or a different spelling of the name. Actually no reference to such a family has been found, and a search of London telephone directories today, for example, reveals numerous Backhouse listings, but few under Backus. Altogether this possibility appears less likely than the first.

3. A third possibility looks more promising. The frequency of occurrence of the name Backhaus or its equivalent in German or Dutch suggests the chance value of a search for a German or Dutch connection. Curiously, an accidental contact of the present writer is worth mentioning. While on shipboard returning from China in May, 1941, I met at lunch an elderly Dutch priest who, on hearing the name Backus, asked about my family origin. On answer that our family roots reportedly run back to Norwich, England, he surprised me by saying "Yes, I know your family. I am from the province of Lemberg in southern Holland. Many of my old neighbors there carry the Dutch form of the name. Part of the family left Holland as a result of religious persecution in the 1500's, and settled in the region of Norwich, England. Your ancestors undoubtedly were among that group." Unfortunately no follow-up of that conversation was obtained. An attempt to confirm his statement has more recently been made through the help of the Netherlands Consulate, but this has failed. However, other curious bits of information come to light from time to time. Correspondence with LeRoy M. Backus, Jr., of Seattle, brings word that "Once many years ago, Theodore Roosevelt and my father attended a meeting of the Harvard Club held in Seattle. Upon being introduced, he commented that the Roosevelts and Backuses had common ancestors in Holland....My grandfather, Manson Backus, determined that the name Backus appeared as Bekhius in Holland. He also determined that many people came from Holland to Norwich to work in the weaving trade that was being established there. Of course there was some intercourse because of the matter of religious beliefs."

Of further interest regarding Dutch emigration is this paragraph from a "History of the City and County of Norwich, 1768", p. 225 (author unlisted): "In 1565, the worsted manufacture being much decayed, the Mayor, sheriffs &c. waited upon the duke of Norfolk at his palace, to consult with him what were the properest steps to be taken on this occasion; when it was resolved to invite hither some of the strangers who had fled from the persecution raised against them in the Netherlands by the duke of Alva, and settled themselves at London and Sandwich, under the Queen's protection; who granted them a license for the making of Flanders commodities of wool in her majesty's dominions. Upon the duke's application, and at his own charge, the queen granted letters patent for the fixing here thirty master workmen, with ten servants to each of them, in the whole three hundred and thirty Dutch and Walloons; who immediately on their arrival set up manufactures of bayes, says, arras, mockades, &c. and in a very short time their number increased to three thousand and upwards."

So much for routine sleuthing. For the truly romantic-minded, a number of curious legends have crept into Backus family tradition, which should perhaps be flashed here briefly, then retired to the corner what-not along with the rest of the curios. One cousin writes of an ambitious member "who claimed descent from Baron d'Albine and the Emperor Charlemagne." Another historian traces the family "to Egbert, first king of England, from him to Cedric, first king of the West Saxons, and tradition says that Cedric was a lineal descendant of Woden (or Odin), who was supposed to be a descendant of the eldest son of Noah...." (125). Others would have us descend from Alfred the Great. And who knows? With all the crossbreeding over the centuries, most people of European descent probably do descend from half the great characters of Europe by this time!

As for coats-of-arms, crests, and the like, two or three different devices have been claimed by various family members, but it is to be suspected that we have merely appropriated those of the various branches of the English Backhouse family, and without a by-your-leave. I have had some correspondence with a member of that family, and he is too much a gentleman to have his heraldic devices stolen.

So, after this meandering, any Backus kinsman who reads this may, for his ancient lineage, choose between a high-born Norman, a sturdy Dutch tradesman, or still another. After all, each of us, by calculating back ten generations, finds 1024 ancestors in his direct line in that one generation alone, which allows considerable leeway if one wants to be fussy!

More About John~ Backhouse and Jenet~:
Marriage: Abt. 1377

Child of John~ Backhouse and Jenet~ is:

80128

Richard Bakehouse, born Abt. 1378 in Of Pogmore, Yorkshire; died Aft. 1463.

      164224. Gruffydd Ap Nicholas^818,⁸¹⁹, born Abt. 1393 in Newton, Dynevor; died 01 Feb 1460/61 in Mortimers Cross. He was the son of 328448. Nicholas Ap Philip and 328449. Janet Verch Gruffydd. He married 164225. Mabli Verch Maredudd Dwnn.

      164225. Mabli Verch Maredudd Dwnn, born Abt. 1399 in of Croesallgwn, Llangyndeyrn, Camarthenshire, Wales; died Unknown. She was the daughter of 328450. Maredudd Ap Henry Dwnn.

More About Gruffydd Ap Nicholas:
Date born 2: Abt. 1393, Llandello Fawr, Maenordello, Camaerthenshire, Wales
Cause of Death: killed at the Battle of Mortimers Cross
Political 1: 1426, Sheriff of Carmarthen
Political 2: 1429, Deputy Constable of Dynevor Castle
Political 3: Bet. 1429 - 1432, Escheator Carmarthen
Political 4: 1437, Deputy Justiciar of South Wales
Political 5: Bet. 1443 - 1454, Deputy Chamberlain of South Wales
Political 6: Bet. 1447 - 1456, Deputy Justiciar of South Wales
Political 7: Bet. 1454 - 1455, Escheator Carmarthen
Political 8: Bet. 1456 - 1457, Mayor Escheator Carmarthen

More About Mabli Verch Maredudd Dwnn:
AKA (Facts Pg): Mabel Donne

Children of Gruffydd Nicholas and Mabli Dwnn are:

Rees Ap Gruffydd, died Unknown.

More About Rees Ap Gruffydd:
Lineage: His descendants were at Cryd

		ii.		Owain Ap Gruffydd, died Unknown; married Alice Malyphant; born in of Cydwell, Carmarthen; died Unknown.
	82112	iii.		Thomas Ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1425 in of Maenordello, Cantref Manor, Camaerthenshire, Wales; died 1474 in Pennal, Merionethshire; married (1) Elsbeth Griffith; married (2) Jonet Malyphant.

164226. Sir John Griffith, born in of Llansadwrn and Abermarlais, Carmarthenshire; died Aft. 1457. He was the son of 328452. Unknown Generations Griffith.

More About Sir John Griffith:
Lineage: A descendant of Lord Rhys
Political 1: 1438, Deputy Justiciar of South Wales
Political 2: 1457, Deputy Justiciar of South Wales

Child of Sir John Griffith is:

82113

Elsbeth Griffith, born Abt. 1420 in of Wichnor, Tatenhill, Staffordshire; died Unknown; married Thomas Ap Gruffydd.

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