Jane Bishop4, 5, 6, 7 was born 1827 in Unknown place. Date per marriage record, and died 1858 in Torbay, Newfoundland8, 9, 10. She married Thomas Cole on November 07, 1852 in Church of St. Nuicholas, Torbay, NFLD11, son of John Cole and Elizabeth Brown.
Notes for Jane Bishop: Birth date estimated from age at time of death.
From Lori-Ann-- her records match our family records:
iii. JANE BISHOP, b. January 20, 1827, Hibbs Hole, Port de Grave, Newfoundland.
7. Jane2 BISHOP (John1), born 20 Jan 1827 in Hibb's Hole, Port de Grave, Newfoundland, Canada; None ; deceased abt. 1858 in Torbay, Nf., Canada. She married on 7 Nov 1852 in Pouch Cove,Torbay, Nf., Canada, Thomas COLE , , born abt. 1829 in Torbay, Nf., Canada.
Notes for Jane BISHOP Jane inherited 30 pound sterling (when she reached 21). Excerpt from John Bishop's Will 1834. Information about Jane Bishop and that branch of my tree, was contributed by Kenneth C. Schneider. Please visit my Distant Cousins Links for his website address.
Thomas and Jane were married by Henry Tuckwell. The marriage was witnesses by William Cole (brother?), Samuel Codner and Hannah Codner.
Notes for Thomas COLE Thomas and Jane were married by Henry Tuckwell. The marriage was witnesses by William Cole (brother?), Samuel Codner and Hannah Codner. This marriage was presided over by G.M. Johnson @ the Church of St. Nicholas, Torbay. Witnesses were Uriah Cole (brother?), Nathanial Thorne and Rachel Codner.
Children of Jane2 BISHOP and Thomas COLE were as follows: Elizabeth3 MaryAnne3 John Joseph3 , , born 22 Jul 1853 in Torbay, Nf., Canada; None ; None ; deceased 17 Nov 1920 in Torbay, Nf., Canada. He married (1) on 15 Nov 1883 in Torbay, Nf., Canada Mary HAMMOND , born 1863 in Portugal Cove, Nf.; deceased 1895 in Torbay, Nf., Canada. He married (2) in 1897 in Torbay, Nf., Canada, Jessie UNKNOWN , born Nov 1869 in Pouch Cove, Nf., Canada; deceased 1930 in Torbay, Nf., Canada.
Newspaper record of an Emily Matilda Cole, infant daughter of Thomas Cole, died age 15 months on 6 JAN 1855. Would have been born about SEP 1853, which does not fit into this family. Jane died either in 1858 or 1859.
bject: [NFLD-ROOTS] BISHOP/MORGAN of Nf. Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:47:09 -0500 From: "larc" To: NFLD-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com
Hello again! I am wondering if there is anyone out there with my Bishop side ?
- John Bishop b.Dec 1764 in Dorset, England d.May 29, 1834 in Hibb's Cove, Port de Grave May have been buried in Ship Cove, Port de Grave m. 1st Elizabeth b.abt.1761 d.November 17(?), 1916 in Hibb's Cove - Elijah - Christopher m. Sarah (Unknown) (Chris moved to Colliers, NFLD) - Jacob (Jacob moved to Petty Harbour, NFLD) - Canon George Henry - George - Jane - Mary - Henry - John - Joseph b.1828 d.1893 m. Susan H. (Unknown) b.1829 d.1895 Joseph moved to Burnt Head, Cupids with Elijah, Henry & John in 1817 - Elizabeth b.1863 d.1900 m. William Morgan b.1861 (of James & Mary Ann Smith) - Selina b.1861 - Abraham b.1865 d.1894 s. - Isabella b.1867 m. John Ford - Joseph b.1869 d.April 26, 1890 on the S.S. Mastiff - Alexander Henry b.1871 d.1872 - Samuel George b.1873 m. Martha Snow - Allan - Rev. Victor - Paul - William Henry b.September 11, 1855 - Susie b.1875 m. Robert Morgan (of Joseph & Rachel) m. 2nd Rachel b.1974 d.1866 in Port de Grave Please contact me if you have any info to add, thanks. Lori-Ann ____________________________
Hi, Lori-Ann--
No, I do not have anything else about Jane Bishop's origins. She died about 1858. It seems reasonable to say that both of our Janes are the same person. If you get more info about her, please let me know. I'm a bit foggy about the geography, but how far apart are Torbay and Hibb's Cove or Port de Grave? Jane may have been quite young when her father died. She was described in her marriage document as a "spinster," implying she might have been a bit older or independent (we might ask an expert what that meant at the time). I am going to add your information to her family tree as an undocumented relationship.
Do feel free to add my web site to your "Distant Cousin" link.
The Late Archbishop Howley's "Newfoundland Name-Lore" republished from the " Newfoundlland Quarterly" commencing October, 1901
Colliers As to Colliers, Dr. Jones tells me that "about two-thirds of the inhabitants of that settlements are Coles ! Possibly the name of Colliers may have been applied to them by way of a joke or pun. "The head of this Bay," the Doctor continues, has many coves, heads, points, etc., bearing names that have either entirely died out, or are forgotten by the present generation, such as Pike's Cove, Mugford's Harbour, &c. He suggests that people from out the Bay may have come down and settled in those coves for the winter - cutting wood, building boats, etc.
From " FAMILY NAMES OF THE ISLAND OF NEWFOUNDLAND"
By E. R. Seary
BISHOP, a surname of England, Scotland, Ireland and the Channel Islands, from the Old English personal name Bisc(e)op, or "a nickname for one with the appearance or bearing of a bishop, or a pageant name from the custom of electing a boy-bishop on St. Nicholas's Day" (Reaney), or one who worked in the household of a bishop; in Ireland, as a synonym by translation of MacAnespie and GILLESPIE. (MacLysaght, Black, Reaney, Cottle, Turk). Guppy and Matthews found the name widespread, especially in the southwest of England.
In Newfoundland:
Family traditions: Ned, ? from Fogo, planter of Swain's Island, 1836 (MUN Hist.). Chris., from Colliers, of Coley's Point, about 1863 (MUN Hist.). Early instances:
Thomas, of Salvage, 1681 (Co 1);
Robert, in possession of property at Bay Roberts, "possess' d by the Family for upwards of 80 years," that is, before 1689 (Co 199.18);
Henery, of Brigus, 1708-09 (CO 194.4); Joseph, fisherman of St. John's or Petty Harbour, about 1739-43 (CO 194.11, 24);
John, of St. John's, 1770 (DPHW 26C);
Henry, of (Upper) Island Cove, 1785 (Co 199-18);
John, of Back Cove (Port de Grave), 1786 (C0 199.18);
Henry, constable at Trepassey, 1800 (D'Alberti 11);
William, proprietor and occupier of fishing room at New Harbour (Trinity B.),
Winter 1800-01 (Census Trinity B.);
George, of Fogo, 1803 (D'Alberti 13);
Richard, of Burin, 1804 (D'Alberti 14);
Robert, from Bradport (? for Bridport) (Dorset), married at St. John's, 1807 (Nfld. Archives BRC);
James, of Bonavista, 1810 (DPHW 70);
John, of Greenspond, 1815 (DPHW 70);
John, given possession of Hobb or Hibb's Hole Island Rock for purpose of fishery, 1818 (D'Alberti 28);
Richard, planter of Cupids, 1824 (DPHW 34);
John, of Change Islands, 1832 (DPHW 30);
Edward, of Pinchard's Island, 1835 (DPHW 76);
John, planter of Bradley's Cove, 1837 (DPHW 52A);
John, fisherman of Burnt Head (Conception B.), 1842 (DPHW 26);
Hannah, of Torbay, 1846 (DPHW 26D);
John, of Long Pond (Conception B.), 1847 (DPHW 26D);
Jacob, of Petty Harbour, 1852 (DPHW 31);
John, planter of Mose Ambrose, 1854 (DPHW 104); Edward, of English Harbour (Fortune B.), 1855 (DPHW 104);
William, of Muddy Hole, 1858 (DPHW 83).
Modern status:
Widespread, especially at St. John's; at Burnt Head, Pick Eyes, Upper Island Cove and other settlements in Conception Bay; at Heart's Delight and Cavendish (Trinity Bay); and Point La Haye (St. Mary's Bay).
Lori-Ann writes (4/12/00): When you look at the report info, it seems to make sense. Jane was born about 1827. Thomas was born abt 1829. Two years difference. ?Their children are born between 1852-1863. Respectively, this gives them between the ages of 30-40 some odd for their children, Elizabeth, Mary Anne, John Joseph. Am I wrong with this belief? Could be so.
Ken's reply-- My concedrn is about the age of Jane's mother, Elizabeth. Her statistics are wrong (your source says Elizabeth was born Abt 1761 and died in 1916-- am I mis-interpreting you???), and I suggest that maybe there were two generations here, unless she died in 1861 and not 1916????. The latter is a possibility (we seem not to have any birth dates for anyone except my Jane, born in 1827, per marriage records in Pouch Cove). I still hesitate to enter all Jane's siblings in my tree as "presumptive" relatives-- I am keeping the data in history notes. There is the geography problem. Did Jane leave the family home and find her fortunes in the big city? Was her mother ailing, and then she died in 1861 and Jane immediately married that year? It could make sense. Jane may have been a caregiver and just had to "fly the coop." But all this is speculation. We need census data, and birth and marriage data for Jane's siblings. They must be available somewhere.
Hey there, did you notice that Barb said that Joseph is the son of HENRY? Who do you have listed as the father for Jane? Hmmmm, this should be interesting to find where she gathered her info from now shouldn't it? Lori-Ann
Mystery solved (apparently) with this e-mail 4/13/00:
Hi there, I received a huge report this morning from Gary Morgan, one of my great contributors and it seems that I made the error. Jane Bishop is the daughter of John and Rachel, not Elizabeth. John and Elizabeth's children were: Henry b. 1786 John b. 1793 Joseph b 1794 Christopher Elijah b. 1806 John and Rachel's children were: Jacob George b 1820 Jane b 1827 (our Jane) Mary b 1832.
With this considered, the time frame now puts Jane as about 25 at the time of her marriage. Does this sound more plausible? Lori-Ann
(I thought there may be a generation skipped because of the date discrepancies-- I wrote to Lori-Ann): Were Christopher and Elijah separate people or did the name wrap around, meaning "Christopher Elijah, b. 1806"
Oops - I entered this as if there were two Johns-- should I have taken you to mean that the same John (born in 1764) was married first to Eliz. then to Rachel? I had the John born in 1793 as the one who married Rachel and has Jane as daughter. This seems more plausible that having the same John with children born of Eliz. in 1786 (let's say at about 22 years of age), then of Rachel in 1832 (at 78 years of age). Let me know. I suspect my first interpretation was correct
Lori-Ann's reply Hi there, I know it doesn't sound right but, when I finish entering all of this, I will send it to you. I will let you see what I have and maybe it will make sense? (I hope) John 1764 did marry twice. Everyone within the Bishop Distant Cousins has it within their records. He married first Elizabeth and second Rachel. I will finish what I have to enter and forward a.s.a.p. to you. You are the only one holding the information for Jane Bishop and that generation. It appears that Grenfell (Gary) did not include the info I sent him, however, with all that he has had, I am not surprised. Give me a few more hours 2-3 and I will be completed, I still have to do supper in this time. :o) I will have it together by the end of the night Ken. Til later, La
Ken wrote to Lori-Ann: larc writes: Lori-Ann--
No, they had only three kids (born 1853-58), and Jane died in childbirth with the third (Mary Anne, b. 1858). Their son John married twice.
My concern is about the age of Jane's MOTHER, Elizabeth. Her statistics are wrong (your source says Elizabeth was born Abt 1761 and died in 1916-- am I mis-interpreting you???), and that's why I suggest that maybe there were two generations here, unless she died in 1861 and not 1916????. The latter is a possibility (we seem not to have any birth dates for anyone except my Jane, born in 1827, per marriage records in Pouch Cove). I just noticed: How did the marriage date of 1861 for "our" John and Elizabeth get into my records???? Now I am really confused!! Any idea before I delete it? Mis-keyed and should have been 1816? I see you had second wife Rachel born in 1974 and that most certainly was 1774-- she died in 1866. Whew!!
I still hesitate to enter all Jane's siblings in my tree as "presumptive" relatives-- I am keeping the data in history notes. There is the geography problem. Did Jane leave the family home and find her fortunes in the big city? Was her mother ailing, and then she died when?)and Jane immediately married that year (1852)? It could make sense. Jane may have been a caregiver and just had to "fly the coop." But all this is speculation. We need census data, and birth and marriage data for Jane's siblings. They must be available somewhere. This long e-mail does not reference Jane but may provide some connections.
Subject: Bishop Info and History as written by Ray Leamon Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:09:02 -0400 From: "larc"
Hi, I am sending this to all of you because it also contains more surnames that Bishop and could be useful in your searching. If you have found I have left someone out, please forward this to them? I have forwarded a copy to Susan Lawrence who will be posting to the Conception Bay site. I already have it on my site under the Charts section and will add the photos as soon as I can. I also have much more to add to my charts with what was enclosed in the articles. Happy Hunting, Lori-Ann
BISHOP HISTORY (as told by Ray Leamon b. Nov. 3, 1929, Grandson of Lucinda Batten Leamon) I received a letter from Ray Leamon on June 09, 2000 which contained so much history of my Bishop ancestors as well as some of the history of Port de Grave and surrounding areas. I have transcribed this as close as possible to what he has written. His handwriting is difficult to read due to a combination of Old English style writing and small. My Bishop Chart was mailed to Ray by Jackie Ebsary (with my permission). Based on what he read from these pages, he has written 9 pages in response. These are typed exactly as Ray has written, errors of any kind included. (Lori-Ann Ryan larc@buckeye-express.com )
OVERVIEW Your John Bishop family is a solid presentation. After reading pages 1-2, you might find your John was born in St. John's and his father who was killed there came from Dorset. You may have a record of a Hibb's Hole Birth but this family was born in Pickeyes. Clergy at that time came from St. Pauls in Harbour Grace once or twice a month. Pickeyes a small cove near Hibb's Hole. Bishop, Petten and Butler would have gone to Hibb's Hole for service, Baptisms, etc. As part of that congregation they would not be recognized as a separate place. Nfld was in early times a number of Harbours where fisherman from specific areas of South West England came. Early census shows the males fishing in Nfld. The Port de Grave Cemetary and the one in Burnt Head are separated by the two mile of salt water in the Bay de Grave. The names are the same. You will very very likely find your early Bishop Grandmothers came from them. They did not move about and tended to marry in their area. (signed) Ray Page 1. I have been asked by Jackie Ebsary to write you on the Bishops, some of whom are well known to me. Jackie is a decendant of Samuel the Cooper and I am a descendant of Captain William. Two of (lives?) sons of John Ebsary born Kenn Devonshire, 1768. The Leamon's who came to Nfld also came from Devonshire. The earliest record is of a Saxon Rheiner Leamon who had a lifedom in Essex in 1090. They have a Coat of Arms which is listed in the Battle Order of English Heraldry. Born 3 Nov 1929, I have had the last 10 years to research my family history. I have been retired since 1989 which makes if full time work, I am connected to the Battens, Taylors and of course Jacob Bishop whose wife Susan Batten was the Aunt of my Grandmother Lucinda Batten Leamon. I first found the name Bishop in the Govenor's files PANL GN21A 1775 in an inquest into the death of John Bishop. The Captain of the Brig Phoenix was hunting water fowl along the shore on the South Side of St. John's Harbour. While passing John Bishop's house, he tripped and the gun discharged. Mr. Bishop was standing in his house at the time when the shot load entered striking him under the left shoulder blade. The Govenor ruled his death accident. There were no other details. The inquest in the Govenor's handwriting was the bare details. End of Page 1. Page 2 On one of my trips to the Anglican Church Archives Newton Morgan who comes from Port de Grave asked me what I knew about John Bishop who lived on the Southside mid 1700's. I told him, then he said he had a family who came here after his death and they were cared for by relatives. We were satisfied it was the same John. He was killed in a fight or something Newton was told. We found John Bishop Mary Hutcheson 22 Oct 1770 Henry 18 Oct 1772 James This couple were not married as the wives maiden name was stated. There were no baptisms recorded after James. By 1780 1790 A family of Bishops were living in Pickeyes. By 1805 the Bishops held the western side of the cove and there was a hill named Bishops Hill Petten and Butler held the remaining land on Pickeyes. This gets complicated by another family of Bishops in Back cove. 1780 probably a bit earlier most of the back cove Bishops and several families of Roach who were also Church of England moved to Bay Roberts in 1820. The predominant family was now John Bishops. End of Page 2 Page 3 The Battens from the Channel Islands are of Norman extraction and go back to the days when the Vikings Angles Saxons Normans and Basque inhabited Coastal Europe, Many of the family names found in Nfld became Anglicised. Batten was originally Batton. Nfld place names St. Johns Petty Hr Bay Bulls are found on Jersy in the same order St. Jean Petite Harve Baie Bay de Boule. There were four Norman Sail in St. John's 1523 when Capt John Rut visited. Those fellows no doubt named it. Samuel Batton occupied the Picco Rooms in Pickeyes 1705. Samuel Batton married Ann Butler and was given Land by her Father Tom Butler in Port de Grave. Interred next to Tom Butler a site which remains to day sacred ground. In 1817 Capt Buchann R.N. reported only two families of Battons left in Port de Grave. The other six were found in Bareneed. This proves what my Grandmother told me. Her Grandfather a ship owner had moved to The Docks. East of the Church his large property bounded the water front of the most sheltered part of the harbour known as The Docks, Ring Bolts can still be seen where the earliest fisherman the Jersyman moored their vessels. I like to believe it was Sam's relatives who first fished there. End of Page 3 Page 4 My Grandmother Lucinda Batten married my Grandfather William John Leamon in Petty Harbour 25 May 1891. He died in 1942 and I would be sent to Petty Harbour as she insisted on remaining in the Old home stead. She would tell me of meeting Grandfather when she came to Petty Hr to work in Jacob Bishops store. She mentioned his wife was her Aunt and the Bishops travelling to The Labrador in their vessel to take part in the codfishery. Labrador Fishery Livyer (?) Labrador Resident Floater He lived on the vessel and fished from it Stationer They would travel to shore based fishing rooms and live ashore in houses. The Bishops and Battens were stationers. There was no Doctor, no Coast Guard, no radio Anything you forgot you did without. Grandmother spoke of the waterfont Shed and the mountain of supplies that grew larger as the sailing date neared. All clothing was gone over and repaired A day before the sailing Bread Cookies and Cakes to last the Trip would be baked. On Sailing day they tried to cross Trinity Bay before nightfall. On the Labrador there were icebergs. After five days hard sailing there was a further delay while the house repairs were completed. They moved ashore for the Summer. End of page 4 Page 5 Capt John had the difficult task of screening families who would be living together for five months in a hostile Land. There were no services and of particular concern was the screening of people who would cave in if exposed to a life threatening situation Groups were Generally of the same faith and family. The concern of being able to cope with Natures elements is reflected in the Hymns in common use here "When the billows roll and the Cables strain Will your anchor drift or firm remain Guide me oh thou Great Jehovah Pilgrim in this Barren land And dark is his path on the wings of a Storm." In the last one they see a hell with water and wind not fire. I am certain that the Battens and Bishops knew and trusted. Their many years fishing in "the Land God gave to Cain" tells it all. I have enclosed a Jacobs family History written by Walter Simms also a history of Petty Hr Parish that he served so well. I will on the following pages complete Walters Storey. End of Page 5 Page 6 William William's children: Susanna married Jacob Bishop 28 Jan 1842, John married Harriet Lear, Emma married Elijah Dawe. Susanna & Jacob had sons George Henry, John, Henry Jacob White. George Henry married Mary Ann Way and had a son named Henry who married Elizabeth Rowe. Henry and Elizabeth had a son Harry and a daughter Olive. Henry Jacob White married Katherine Webber and had sons George, John, Harold, Henry and Eric. John & Harriet had a daughter Lucinda. Lucinda had a son John Malcolm. John Malcolm had a son Ray Leamon. Emma & and Elijah had a son William. William had sons Chester and Lewis. Chester now 95 still heads the largest building supplies in Nfld. which he founded. His brother Lewis Salesmanager. Jacob Bishop was a licenced Church Layreader/School Teacher who came to Petty Harbour to replace Richard Allen who had retired. At that time, a clergy came from St. John's once or twice a month for Communion and Marriages. Baptisms, burials, the Sick and Sunday Service made Jacob a very busy fellow. The one room school Just west of the Church had the teachers residence attached. A door in the house opened into the classroom. Wood for the house was cut and delivered. Fish and vegetables for the asking. The children were required to bring a Junk each day for school Heath. A spring well Just up the Hill provided a never ending supply of sweetwater. To this day residents prefer it to the towns water. End of page 6 Page 7 The property where the School and Church are located was once the Property of John Chafe who lived there in 1708. It went to his eldest son Edward who we beleive built the first Church St Davids 1780. The earliest headstone 1811 Henry Chafe was Edwards brother. Jacob Bishop was surrounded by Edwards children who were generous to their Church and very active. Jacob Bishop had wonderful neighbours and must have been very happy there. Two headstones: Jacob 23 Jan 1899 age 79 Susanna 1 May 1891 age 71 The Lees who live in sight of the Church yard tell me Henry Jacob White visited his parents grave site every week. Henry Jacob White married Katherine and their large home with a General store attached was located on the main road. The had the mail and a contract for freight and passengers >From the local railway station. Mother told me I was five months old when the Bishops picked me up at the station and brought me to Petty Harbour. The last Bishop to run the store was Henry J Ws daughter Mary Elizabeth who had a late marriage to Alexander G. Lee about 1945. He was a widower. If my mother went to the store in a slack time she would bring out the teapot and cookies and they would have a chat. Remember my mothers Grandfather John Henry Ebsary was an older Brother of Allen Pitts Ebsary husband of Mary Ann Mercer. End of Page 7 Page 8 Alexander G. Lees first Cousin Cartrelt(?) Lee maried Rebecca Ann Bishop. This is another Branch of the Bishops Clan who kept a farm at Manuels Conception Bay. Cartrelt(?) and Rebecca Anns Daughter Marion marrion married Harold son of Henry Jacob White Bishop. They had a vegetable farm on the Highway leading to St. John's. They had two sons Roy and George who married built their homes on the farm and became farmers. George died of lung cancer 1958 leaving two children Roy is still living there. Charles came to St. John's and founded CHR Bishop Plumbing He lived on Cowan Ave near me and I would see him from time to time. Henry was a housing contractor and part time farmer I had met him at funerals a number of occasions. Eric was the mechanic foreman at the Royal Garage when he opened his own shop on Topsail road I had my car serviced there. End of Page 8 Page 9 Henry Jacob White is interred in the New Cemetery P.H. opened 1905 Mary Elizabeth Lee 30 Jan 1956 age 63 Henry Jacob White Bishop 29 Oct 1925 (notes between the two listed above read Family Plot) Katherine Bishop 30 Jun 1943 (notes beside "was a Webber UC people) George Hubert Bishop 25 Oct 1925 age 22 1/2 Kathleen Webber Bishop 30 May 1923 13mth There is enclosed Head Stone photos. Canon George Henrys Wife and Son Anglican Cemetery Forest Rd St. John's. (signed) Ray Leamon
[John Bishop Tree.FTW]
Newspaper record of an Emily Matilda Cole, infant daughter of Thomas Cole, died age 15 m.
More About Jane Bishop: Date born 2: January 20, 1827, Hibbs Hole, Port de Grave, Newfoundland. Died 2: Abt. 1858, Torbay, NFLD.11 Religion: Church of England- Anglican.12
More About Jane Bishop and Thomas Cole: Marriage 1: November 07, 1852, Church of St. Nuicholas, Torbay, NFLD.13 Marriage 2: November 07, 185214, 15
Children of Jane Bishop and Thomas Cole are:
+John Joseph Cole, b. July 22, 1853, TORBAY, NEWFOUNDLAND, CANADA16, d. November 17, 1920, Torbay, Newfoundland16.
Jane Bishop (b. 1827, d. 1858)
Notes for Jane Bishop: