Notes for John Henry Grubb: Event: Came to 1677 On board the Kent Note: John Grubb came to America in 1677 on the Kent. While there is no passenger list per se, there is strong evidence that John Grubb was one of the Kent's passengers. In 1677, John was either a Quaker or closely associated with Quakers. After his death in 1708, John was buried at the St. Martin's Episcopal Church in Marcus Hook, Pennsylvania. The original St. Martins was built in 1700, although the current structure dates to 1845. The deed stipulates that no Quaker be buried there. While this may have been relaxed later, it is unlikely that John Grubb would have been interred at St. Martin's in 1708 had he been a Quaker. However, there is no record of John's religious views earlier in life. The Kent was chartered by William Penn and all of its settlers were Quakers or closely associated with Quakers. John could only have learned about the Kent from a Quaker, and could only have been on the Kent if a Quaker vouched for him. ***************** Ever since 1893, there has been a debate within the Delaware Grubb family concerning its origins. New evidence has been discovered that finally establishes that John Grubb, our immigrant ancestor was christened in Stoke Climsland, Cornwall on August 16, 1652, the son of Henry Grubb Jr and his wife, Wilmot.
The surname Grubb, Grubbe and its variations do not appear in the first census of England, taken in the late eleventh century. It appears that the name was brought to England by twelfth and thirteenth century Danish immigrants and later by fifteenth century Protestant Hussite refugees from northern Germany. The Grubb/Grubbe surname is not common in England, but by the seventeenth century there were Grubb families throughout the United Kingdom. Just as in America, many of these families were probably not related.
In 1662, John Grubb Jr (1625 – 1700), probably the 2nd great grandson of Sir Henry Grubbe, purchased the estate and mansion house at Horsenden, Buckinghamshire, just over the boarder from Hertfordshire. This estate of 1240 acres remained in the family until 1841 when it was sold for 63,000 pounds to the Duke of Buckingham. Members of this branch include a long line of London area solicitors and Clerks of the fishmonger’s company. ***************** The following information was received from Barbara Dill, 1124 Clark St., San Jose, Ca. 95125, dated Dec 1984.
Frances Vane of Kent married John Grubb, Justice of New Castle Co., Delaware in 1693, and member of the Colonial Assembly of Pennsylvania 1698-1700. They went to New Jersey in 1677 arriving from england on the ship "Kent". They moved to Pennsylvania in 1681 where Frances gave birth to first English male child born in Pennsylvania. They later settled on a plantation called Grubb Homestead and which is ssstill occupied by their descendants. John died in March 1708.
It is assumed that Frances was the granddaughter of Sir Henry Vane the Elder and that he was the first to use the old version of the name rather than Fane. It is also noted that his wife's name was Frances. Prior to the time of Henry the name was not seen in the family, after him it occured several times, in other words it became a family name. This slim evidence seems more convincing when one considers that the name of Vane is not very common. It might also be menntion that John grubb seems to have been from a family that would have been of the same social class as the Vanes. It is assumed that Frances Vane Grubb was the daughter of either, sir George, Sir Walter, Ralph or possibly one of the other sons of sir Henry the Elder.
In November 1679 a tract of 340 acres of land on Chester Creek, near Upland New Chester, Pennsylvania was conveyed to John Grubb and Richard Buffington. On september 19, 1682, "Stockdales's Plantation" of 800 acres in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle county was surveyed to John grubb, though a portion of it was in dispute between him and the Proprietary Government for a number of yars, as shown by the correspondence of James Logan, Secretary of the Proprietors. It was located on Nasman's creek and the Delaware River, and came to be known as "Grubb's Manor Lands'. On May 9, 1691, there was surveyed to him by virtue of a warrant dated April 26, 1684, four and one half acres for a tan yar, on which he erected a tannery. At the Court of Chester, Jan 6, 1684, he made a deposition in reference to a matter then pending, and is mentioned as 'about 32 years of age". On June 3, 1698, Alice gilpin conveyed to him 108 acres of land near Grubb's Landing, on the Delaware, and in 1707 John French conveyed tp jo, 175 acres in Brandywine Hundred. In 1703-04 he purchased land at Marcus Hook, Chester Township, chester Co., Pa. where was living at the time of making his will. He died at Marcus Hook March 26, 1708, but as he was a large landowner in New Castle County a copy there fore was filed in the Will's Office at New Castle, Del.
Grubb information is also found in "Historical Southern Families" Vol xx111 1980, by Boddie. *********************** Fact 1: Buried in Marcus Hook, St. Martin's Churchyard, PA
Fact 2: Religion-Episcopal ************* 1) John's earliest known ancestor was Thomas Grubb, who was born about 1540 in Stoke Climsland, Cornwall. Contrary to numerous published myths, he definitely was not in any way related to the Sir Henry Grubbe of Hertfordshire who married Lady Joan Parr Radcliffe or the Sir Henry Grubbe of Wiltshire who served in Parliament. While we don't know the names of Thomas' parents, (because the parish register only goes back to about 1540), we do know that the Grubb family was in Stoke Climsland by 1329 when Ralph Grubbe was granted the right to hunt in Keyrbullock Park in the parish. This evidence from the Medieval Patent Rolls totally disproves the contentions that the Stoke Climsland Grubb family was descended from the noble Hertfordshire or Wiltshire Grubbe families.
Thomas was a yeoman who had at least three wives - Agnes Jeffrey, a second wife whose name is unknown and Johan Williams. Thomas died in St Dominic (next to Stoke Climsland) in July 1616 leaving a will that named his 11 surviving children.
2) John's grandfather was Henry Grubb "the younger" who was the son of Thomas by his second wife (c1555 - c1605). Baptized in Stoke Climsland on February 18, 1581, he was actually the second son Thomas named Henry - an interesting English custom that causes all sorts of confusion. Henry married Johan H___ (c1590 - March 31, 1635) on August 1, 1615. Possibly her maiden name was Hawkins - a family very closely associated with the Stoke Climsland Grubb clan. On April 29, 1637, Henry remarried to Jane (or Joan) Bidgood. He died during the civil wars and was buried in Stoke Climsland on June 19, 1645.
3) John's father was Henry Grubb Jr (July 1617 - bef. 1675) a tenant farmer and butcher in Stoke Climsland. He was also one of the early Quakers in Cornwall who was jailed for several years beginning in 1663/4. His first wife was Margaret Facie who died two years after their marriage. Then he married Wilmot (maiden name unknown) who was probably born about 1625 and died in 1698. Henry Grubb Jr had eight known children, at least seven with Wilmot. They were: Peter, (who died in 1674/5), Anthony, Robert (who died young), Henry III who also came to America in 1677, John (baptized August 16, 1652), Robert (baptized February 23, 1653/4), Johan (baptized March 30, 1657) and David (baptized January 23, 1658/9). Because he was a Quaker, the date of Henry's death was not recorded. Wilmot's burial "in a field" was recorded because in 1679 the law was changed to require a certification in the parish register that all burials were in a wollen shroud.
5) John and his older brother Henry came to America because his family lost the lease on their land in Stoke Climsland. John apprenticed as a tanner (probably with the Hawkins family) about the time his father was put in jail. By 1676 his father was dead and his mother was living with her oldest surviving son, Anthony. They heard of the West Jersey venture from a letter sent by William Penn and Wilmot apparently realized that Henry and John had no chance of ever becoming established in Stoke Climsland. Interesting, it appears that John had earned enough money to pay his fare on the Kent while Henry agreed to become an indentured servant for three years. Both were Quakers at the time, but John later left the Society (probably about 1680 after a dispute with Robert Wade, then the most prominent Quaker in what later became Pennsylvania)
6) The only thing we know for certain about John's wife is that her name was Frances - no evidence has come to light concerning her maiden name. She was probably born about 1660 and she definitely was not the daughter of Sir Henry Vane "the younger." That is another myth that has been totally disproven. Her death is not recorded, but we know she died before 1721 when her second husband remarried. John and Frances had nine children that lived to adulthood and are named in John's will: Emanuel m Ann Hitchcock, John m Rachael Buckley, Joseph m Sarah Ann Perkins, Charity m Richard Beeson, Phoebe m. Richard Buffington Jr and later Simon Hadley, Samuel m Mary Bellerby, Henry unmarried, Nathaniel m. Ann Moore, and Peter m. Martha Bates and later Hannah Mendenhall. John died in March 1708 (the exact date is unknown) in Marcus Hook, Pennsylvania, then Chester County and today Delaware County. ************** Delaware Quaker Records: New Castle County
"John Grubb was among those who appear to have come over fr England, as New Jersey colonists, and is supposed to have been a brother to Henry Grubb of Burlington and a son of Henry & Willmet or Willmott Grubb of Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, who suffered persecution with other Quakers in 1663. John Grubb with his wife Frances, soon located on the western side of the Delaware, prior to the arrival of William Penn and became the owner of lands above and below the present circula line of Delaware. He was a tanner as well as farmer, and died in 1708 leaving children Emanuel, John, Charity, Phebe, Joseph, Henry, Nathani??l & Peter, of whom the last was the owner and developer of the Cornwall iron mines and furnaces in Pennsylvania. Frances Grubb, widow, appears to have married Richard Buffington, head of that family in Pennsylvania"--Smedley pp 381-382 See also Bible Records Del. V-7, p 125 "Grubb Burying Ground" John Grubb signed wedding cert of Alphensus Kirk & Abigail Sharpley 12-23-1792. "Among the emigrants who accompanied William Penn on this first voyage, embarking from Deal and occupying six weeks in the passage, was a young man of twenty-two years of age by the name of John Grubb, a sawyer by trade, who in the following spring, March 24, 1683 was married in Burlington(?) to Mary Perkins, dt of William & Mary, before mentioned. He purchased real estate in the town of Chichester on Grubb, alias New Street, in Feb. 1705/6, still holding his Brandywine Hundred property--The Daily News Standard, (???)town, PA, July 4, 1896, p 10 John Grubb is here confused with his brother Henry Grubb who married Mary Perkins. Cope, Gilbert--The Grubb Family of Pennsylvania & Del.
Children of John Henry Grubb and Frances Vane are:
+Charity Grubb, b. September 29, 1687, Brandywine, Hundred, New Castle, Delaware, d. November 22, 1761, Guilford, North Carolina.