1.JOHN1DE TILDEN1 was born Abt. 1320 in Marden, Kent County, England1, and died Abt. 1370 in Marden, Kent County, England1. He married ISOLDEREVE1 Abt. 1341 in Marden, Kent County, England. She was born Abt. 1320 in Marden, Kent County, England1.
Notes for JOHNDE TILDEN: Notes on before much records were kept:...................... Sir Richard de Tylden was Seneschal to Hugh de Lacy, Constable of Chester, during the reign of HenryII of England ca 1153-1189, Richard is sadi to have accompanied King RichardI(Cour de Lion) on crusade to Palestine. His son was probably Sir Richard of Sittenbourne who m Gertrude dau of Sir Wm Vernon of Fordsham,Cheshire. They had Sir Henry m Phillipa dau of Sir Richard Boteler of Lancashire they had Sir Wm. m Constance dau of Rodolphus Gannett and had Sir Wm Tylden who served under the Black Prince in the Battle of Poictiers in 1366. Sir Wm m Angharad, dau of Sir Matthew Ellis of Cheshire and hadSir Thomas who m Alice dau of Robert Holmes,Lord of Tranmere. Their son, Sir John Tylden m Isabel dau of Sir Roger Cotgreave, Lord of Tattenhall. Sir Wm.Tylden of Wormshill, believed the eldest of John & Isabel, m Eliz. Tonge & had Richard Tylden m Eliz.dau of John Toke.They had John,Richard,Wm. John& Richard had no heirs. Wm Tylden m Hannah dau of Sir Thomas Manby of Lincolnshire and had Richard who m Eliz Osborne in 1210 and had Manby,Wm., and Richard Osborn. I don't know how this fits into the first chart. Somehow it does, but the first is proven in the New England Genealogical and Hist Register. The names of Hatch, Huckstepp and Bigges are other well documented lines of some import.
TILDEN ANCESTRY
"A knowledge of one's descent from a line of virtuous, honorable, and reputable ancestors who performed worthily their part in their day and generation, and who enjoyed the esteem of their contemporaries, is an incentive to imitate their example. That a heredity in mental and moral, as well as in physical capacities and qualities exists, at least as a tendency has been recognized in all ages, although the laws by which it is governed have never been ascertained." On the large map of the county of Kent in England, made from the ordnance survey, the name of Tilden appears in four places, and on the sheets defining the parishes, five several times. The records of Kent show that estates in Kent have borne the name of Tilden for more than six hundred years. The present Sir John Maxwell Tilden, of Milsted in Kent, has in his possession a copy of an ancient pedigree which began with Sir Richard Tylden, who lived under the reigns of Henry II and Richard I, a period which extended from 1154 to 1189, and his armorial bearings are said to show that his ancestors intermarried with the first Norman Earl of Chester, a nephew of William the Conqueror. The Tildens of America can trace their lineage back by authentic records to John Tilden, an influential clothier of Benenden, who was born about the year 1400. He was the direct progenitor of Nathaniel Tilden, who with his family, consisting of his wife Lydia, seven children and seven servants, in the month of March, 1634, embarked in the good ship HERCULES, of Sandwich, of the burthen of two-hundred tons John Witherby, master, and were therein transported to the plantation called New England in America; with the certificate from the Ministers where they last dwelt, of their conversion and conformity to the orders and the discipline of the church, an that they had taken the Oath of Allegiance and Supremacy. Nathaniel Tilden is the first name on the passenger list of the HERCULES. He was a man of substance and importance, had been mayor of Tenterden in 1622 and was succeeded in that office by his cousin John in 1623-4. His Uncle John had also been mayor of Tenterden in 1585 and in 1600. His father Thomas had been one of the jurate of local magistrates of Tenterden, and his brother Hopestil had held that same office. Within a year after his arrival at Scituate in the Colony of Massachusetts Bay, where he established himself, Nathaniel Tilden was chosen ruling elder of the first church of that town; the first conveyance of land recorded in Scituate was made to him in 1634, and it was bounded by land which already belonged to him. Nathaniel's brother Joseph, tow years his junior, was on e of the merchant adventurers of London who fitted out the MAYFLOWER and furnished the capital with which her passengers founded and maintained their infant settlement. Before leaving England, Nathaniel Tilden married Lydia, a daughter of Thomas Bourne…. Nathaniel Tilden's youngest son, Stephen married Hannah Little of Plymouth, whose father married the daughter of Richard Warren, who came out in the MAYFLOWER in 1620, and left two sons, one of whom Joseph Warren was the great-great-grandfather of Major-General Warren who was killed at Bunker Hill. This Stephen Tilden had twelve children and became a large proprietor of land in Lebanon Connecticut where he resided."
Taken from "The Life and Letters of Samuel Jones Tilden" by John Bigelow, L.L.D. Edited by Harper Bros. New York
The Adventurers which raised the stock to begin and supply this Plantation were about seventy; some gentlemen, some merchants, some handcraftsmen, some adventuring great sums, some small, as their estates and affection served. The following forty-two Adventurers signed the Composition with the Plymouth Colony on 15 November 1626 to receive 200 pounds a year, for nine years. Apparently those were all the Adventurers in England who had any stake in the Plantation at that time.
Robert Allden Timothy Hatherly William Pemrom Emanuel Alltham Thomas Heath John Pocock Richard Andrews William Hobson Daniel Poynton Thomas Andrews Robert Holland William Quarles Lawrence Anthony Thomas Hudson John Revell Edward Bass Robert Kean Newman Rookes John Beauchamp Eliza Knight Samuel Sharp Thomas Brewer John Knight James Shirley Henry Browning Miles Knowles John Thorned William Collier John Ling Mathew Thornhill Thomas Coventry Thomas Millsop John Tilden Thomas Fletcher Thomas Mott Thomas Ward Thomas Coffe Fria Newbald John White Peter Cudburn William Penington Richard Wright
These names are preserved to us in Governor Bradford's Letter Book reprinted in 1 Mass. Coll. III 48, Ed. 1794, 8
From "Story of the Pilgrim Fathers" by E. Arber
Page 362 The names of those which came over first in the year 1620…. 55. Master Richard Warren. He came from London. His wife and children were left behind and came afterwards. His wife came over to him by whom he had 2 sons before he died and one of them is married and hath 2 children. (1650) But he had 5 daughters more who came over with his wife; who are all married and living in 1650 and have many children. He died at Plymouth NE in 1628.
Page 386 The falls by lot of their grounds which came over in the ship called the ANNE and in the Little James according as their lots were cast in the autumn of 1623. Thomas Tilden Richard Warren (on the MAYFLOWER) from the "Story of the Pilgrim Fathers"
An estimation and probably dates of the birth of the five daughters based on the known facts gives the following results: Mary b. 1606, Elizabeth b. 1608, Anne b. 1612, Sarah b. 1614, Abigail b. 1616. From "The English Ancestry and Homes of the Pilgrim Fathers" by Charles E. Banks
Anne Warren b. 1612 married Thomas Little in 1633 Hannah Little b. 1633 married Stephen Tilden b. 1629 (in Tenterden, England in 1661) From Am Genealogy by Frederick A. Virkus p.323
Nathaniel Tilden, Scituate. His will probated May 25, 1641. To Lydia, my wife, most of my property including house; to my two youngest children, Lydia and Stephen, their maintenance of their mother. To my sons, Joseph and Thomas, daughter Judith and Mary (wife of Tho Lapham, sand my daughter, Sarah, inventory. From "New England History and Genealogical Register"
All known Tildens in America are descended from Nathaniel Tilden. Researches into his ancestry in England show his descent from Richard Tilden who went to Palestine with Coeur de Lion in 1191. From "American Ancestry" vol. VI
Thomas Tilden mentioned in History of Marshfield, paid for killing a wolf. From "History of Town of Medford" by Wm. S. Tilden
Stephen Tilden born in Tenterden, England Oct. 11, 1629, died August 22, 1711 married Hanna Little, b.1633, d. 1710, had the following children:
Hannah b. Oct. 14, 1662 Mercy b. May 1, 1674 Stephen b. Feb. 5, 1663 Ruth b. June 1, 1676 Abigail b. July 11, 1666 Issac b. Aug. 28, 1678 Mary b. Apr. 7, 1668 Ephraim b. Nov. 20, 1680 Judith b. June 1, 1670 Ebenezer b. June 16, 1682 Joseph b. May 13, 1672 David b. Nov. 6, 1685
Stephen Tilden married Hanna Little Jan. 15, 1661 From New England History - General Register Vol. 19
Stephen b. 1663, married Lucinda Hargrave From "Am. Genealogy" Had Stephen b. 1690, who married Sarah Root March 5, 1712 From Tilden Ancestry by John W. Linzee Had: Joshua b. Lebanon in 1715, d. 1755 Married Rachel Chamberlain Had: Joshua born in Coventry 1749, married Eunice Carpenter (b. Oct. 5, 1748; d. 1828) in 1768. From "Commemorative Biographical Record", p.874
Joshua Tilden (1749-1819) of Coventry enlisted in 1775 as a private, made Ensign in 1776 - Revolutionary War from D.A.R. Lineage Book Vol. 55
At a meeting of Governor and Council of Safety, Feb. 17, 1776, appointed Joshua Tilden Ensign of Cap. Paul Brigham's Company. From "Conn. Public Records of the State, 1776-1778"
Ebenezer Tilden b. Sept 18, 1778 in Coventry married Sarah (Sally) Hatch Had: Wealthy, William b. Feb 22, 1800, Marvin, Fannie, Austin, Maria, Joseph, Melissa From: Ebenezer's Bible by grandson of Austin From "Chamney Notice"
William b. Feb 1800, died 1872 at Marysburg, Minnesota, married a Miss Hach, then Margaret Smith had: Wealthy, John William, Ebenezer, Austin b. 1831, Sarah Christena twins, Mary, Elizabeth, Anne Married a third time to Elizabeth Sherwood b. Apr 15, 1837 at St. Johns, New Brunswick Canada d. 1905 at Reeve, Wisconsin Had: Alice, b. June 16, 1862 Ellsworth b. Apr 15, 1867 Harriet, b. Nov. 6, 1863 Joseph b. Oct. 12, 1869 Cecelia b. Sept, 1866
William died in fall of 1872 at Marysburg, but body was moved the winter of 1973-74 to Concord cemetery of First Christian Church. He was an Elder of First Christian Church.
Ebenezer married Anne South has Fillmore, Lizzie, Alva, Ira, Stella
Austin married Jane Sherwood, Sister of Elizabeth Sherwood, had: Elbert, Will, Wmma, Effie, Craig, Sarah
Elizabeth married a Mr. Fuller, first to a Mr. Tuncks
Anne married a Dolson had: Walter, Clara, Isabel, Willie, James, Joseph, Tena Marie
Emma married a Mr. Bender had: ??, Willard, Joseph
Harriet Tilden married Frank Firehammer May 12, 1881 at Marysburg, Minnesota had: Louis, Fred, Charlotte, Mattie, Esther. He died on Sept 3, 1894 at Cordova.
Harriet married a second time to George Unger on October, 1896 and had: Beatrice, Nel, Theodore, Clayton. Harried died Nov. 28, 1961
Louis married Anna Shanahan had: Louis Jr. Fred married Clara Burton had: Burton, Robert Don. Charlotte married Edwin Anderson had: Lester John Mattie married Clarence Kinney had: Clifton, Russell, Lorain, Louise, Mitzie Esther Married Lorelle Sanders had: Loreley, Betty, Shirley Beatrice married Ed Smith, had no children Nel married Norof Nelson had: Kirk Tilden Nelson Theodore married Leona Rediske had: Elaine Clayton married Jane Gould had Kay, Lee, Roy, Lynn
Wealthy Tilden married a Kessling had: Charley, Elsie Sarah married Dan Deeds Mary married a Wright had: Lizzie, Mary, Maggie, Tena John and William (remained in Indiana and did not move to Minnesota) Contributed by Johnathan P. Tilden, grandson of John
Nathaniel Tilden born 1583 at Tenterden, England, died at Scituate 1641. Stephen born in Tenterden in 1627 died 1712 Stephen born 1663 died 1726 Stephen born 1690, died 1770 Joshua born 1715, died 1755 Joshua born 1749, died 1819 Ebenezer born 1778, died 1837 William born 1800, died 1872 Harriet born 1863, died 1961
Issac son of the first Stephen, born Aug. 28, 1678 Married first Martha Mudge Dec. 30, 1714 had: one child Isaac b. Sep 20, 1715, His wife died and he married Rebecca Mann June 14, 1716 had: Rebecca b. Mar 7, 1717 Jonathan b. Apr 21, 1719 Judith b. Aug 2, 1721 Martha b. Oct 12, 1723 Mercy b. Aug. 15, 1725 John b. Jan 28, 1729 died at Lebanon, NY 1812
John married Bathsheba Janes in 1762 had: Elam b. 1781, died 1842 Elam married Polly Youngblood Jones had: Samuel Jones Tilden, b. Feb 8, 1814 at Lebanon, NY Died near Yonkers, NY Aug. 4, 1886 From "Life Letters of S. J. Tilden"
He was a lawyer and statesman, being governor of New York twice, ran for President in 1876 and was defeated by Rutherford B. Hayes. Tilden won the popular vote but lacked one vote in the Electoral College of being elected. Most people believe he was really elected and that the election returns were fraudulent. He was offered the nomination twice after that but declined to accept.
He was a brilliant lawyer and successfully broke up the notorious Tweed Ring that was swindling the City of New York. Samuel J. Tilden left an estate of around $6,000,000 at his death to found a library for the City of New York but his heirs contested the will and only about two million was used for that purpose. It was combined with the Astor Library and the Lenox Library to form the Library of the City of New York and is located on Fifth Avenue at 40th and 42nd Streets. A plaque in the library honors Samuel J. Tilden. From " Americana"
Joseph Hatch III, son of Joseph II, married Sarah Parks, Sept 10, 1772 had: Joseph b. Jan. 9, 1773 Betsy b. Aug. 27, 1774 Anna b. Sept 24, 1776 Sally (Sarah) b. Oct. 24, 1778 William b. Dec. 31, 1780, d. 1789 Ephriam b. Mar. 21, 1783 Ruth b. Jul. 20, 1785 Dana b. Jan. 31, 1788, d. 1792 Frank b. Apr. 28, 1790 Dana b. Feb. 19, 1795
Sally Hatch married Ebenezer Tilden. She was descended from William Hatch who came over from England on the HERCULES along with Nathaniel Tilden and was a cousin of Nathaniel's wife Lydia. From "Rehobeth Branch of the Carpenter Family"
Joseph Hatch II born 1718, d. 1802 was a Minute Man from Alstead NH where he moved in 1774. He was born in Toland, Conn. His wife was Sarah Stearns. From D.A.R. Vol. 40
Joseph Hatch III born in 1750, d. 1823 enlisted in the first call for troops in Connecticut militia. His wife was Sarah Parks, m. 1772. From D.A.R. Vol. 40
Note: I am indebted for the missing links to Dr. Benjamin Tilden of Marion, MA who obtained his information from the grandsons of John and William Tilden, sons of William born Feb. 22, 1800. Signed Esther Firehammer Sanders Armstrong, compiled 1961 [Tilden12052002.FTW]
Notes on before much records were kept:...................... Sir Richard de Tylden was Seneschal to Hugh de Lacy, Constable of Chester, during the reign of HenryII of England ca 1153-1189, Richard is sadi to have accompanied King RichardI(Cour de Lion) on crusade to Palestine. His son was probably Sir Richard of Sittenbourne who m Gertrude dau of Sir Wm Vernon of Fordsham,Cheshire. They had Sir Henry m Phillipa dau of Sir Richard Boteler of Lancashire they had Sir Wm. m Constance dau of Rodolphus Gannett and had Sir Wm Tylden who served under the Black Prince in the Battle of Poictiers in 1366. Sir Wm m Angharad, dau of Sir Matthew Ellis of Cheshire and hadSir Thomas who m Alice dau of Robert Holmes,Lord of Tranmere. Their son, Sir John Tylden m Isabel dau of Sir Roger Cotgreave, Lord of Tattenhall. Sir Wm.Tylden of Wormshill, believed the eldest of John & Isabel, m Eliz. Tonge & had Richard Tylden m Eliz.dau of John Toke.They had John,Richard,Wm. John& Richard had no heirs. Wm Tylden m Hannah dau of Sir Thomas Manby of Lincolnshire and had Richard who m Eliz Osborne in 1210 and had Manby,Wm., and Richard Osborn. I don't know how this fits into the first chart. Somehow it does, but the first is proven in the New England Genealogical and Hist Register. The names of Hatch, Huckstepp and Bigges are other well documented lines of some import.
TILDEN ANCESTRY
"A knowledge of one's descent from a line of virtuous, honorable, and reputable ancestors who performed worthily their part in their day and generation, and who enjoyed the esteem of their contemporaries, is an incentive to imitate their example. That a heredity in mental and moral, as well as in physical capacities and qualities exists, at least as a tendency has been recognized in all ages, although the laws by which it is governed have never been ascertained." On the large map of the county of Kent in England, made from the ordnance survey, the name of Tilden appears in four places, and on the sheets defining the parishes, five several times. The records of Kent show that estates in Kent have borne the name of Tilden for more than six hundred years. The present Sir John Maxwell Tilden, of Milsted in Kent, has in his possession a copy of an ancient pedigree which began with Sir Richard Tylden, who lived under the reigns of Henry II and Richard I, a period which extended from 1154 to 1189, and his armorial bearings are said to show that his ancestors intermarried with the first Norman Earl of Chester, a nephew of William the Conqueror. The Tildens of America can trace their lineage back by authentic records to John Tilden, an influential clothier of Benenden, who was born about the year 1400. He was the direct progenitor of Nathaniel Tilden, who with his family, consisting of his wife Lydia, seven children and seven servants, in the month of March, 1634, embarked in the good ship HERCULES, of Sandwich, of the burthen of two-hundred tons John Witherby, master, and were therein transported to the plantation called New England in America; with the certificate from the Ministers where they last dwelt, of their conversion and conformity to
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