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Descendants of Samuel Elder

14. WILLIAM JACKSON⁶ ELDER (JOHN⁵, SAMUEL⁴, SAMUEL³, GEORGE², ALEXANDER¹) was born Jan 1836 in IL ⁵², and died Aft. 1910 in Doniphan,Ripley Co.,Missouri ?. He married (1) ELIZABETH MORRIS 13 Dec 1855 in ,Saline Co.,Illinois ⁵³, daughter of JAMES MORRIS and JANE. She was born 26 Aug 1841, and died Unknown. He married (2) GINA PARLEE WOMACK 25 Sep 1882 in ,Saline Co.,Illinois ⁵⁴, daughter of WILLIAM WOMACK and JULIA TOMBOLIN. She was born Aug 1855 in TN ⁵⁵, and died Unknown.

More About WILLIAM JACKSON ELDER:
Census: 01 Jun 1900, HH 7 age 64 / Doniphan Township,Ripley Co., Mo

Notes for ELIZABETH MORRIS:
The 1870 Saline Co. Illinois shows that Elizabeth was 28 years old and her husband William Jackson was not with her. She had 5 children with her at this time James E. age 13, John W. age 10, William T. age 9. Oscar M. age 4 and Charles S. age 2. This Charles is more than likely the Sherman that is listed as one of her children.

More About ELIZABETH MORRIS:
Cause of Death: Suicide by drowning
Census: 1870, HH 99 / Eldorado PO, Saline Co., IL

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM ELDER and ELIZABETH MORRIS:
Book A Page 6 ELDER, Wm. J. - Elizabeth MORRIS, Dec. 13, 1855, Sam'l Elder Co. Judge

More About WILLIAM ELDER and ELIZABETH MORRIS:
Marriage: 13 Dec 1855, ,Saline Co.,Illinois ⁵⁶

Notes for GINA PARLEE WOMACK:
1900 Federal Census for Ripley Co., Missouri June 1, 1900
Doniphan Township

ELDER,      William      head      born Jan 1836 in ILL age 65      married 19 years
      Parala      wife      born Aug 1855 in TN age 45      married 19 years 5 children 3 living
      Edie Bell dau.      born Sept 1884 in ILL age 16
      Bessie      dau      born Feb 1891 in MO age 9
      Sarah M.      dau      born Feb 1894 in MO age 6

More About GINA PARLEE WOMACK:
Census: 1900, HH 7 / Doniphan Township,Ripley Co., Mo

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM ELDER and GINA WOMACK:
Marriage Register A-1 page 40 62-6

ELDER, Wm. J.            R-Eldorado, Ill.      Carpenter            43      White      b-Ill
F-John Elder            M-Edie CARNER      2mg.
WOMACK, Paralee            R-Eldorado,Ill.      26      White      b-Tenn.
F-Wm. WOMACK            M-Julia TOMBOLIN            1mg      Harrisburg, Ill., 25 Sept 1882
W-W. K. Burnett, E. M. Provine      By-Francis M. Pickett, J.P.

More About WILLIAM ELDER and GINA WOMACK:
Marriage: 25 Sep 1882, ,Saline Co.,Illinois ⁵⁷

Children of WILLIAM ELDER and ELIZABETH MORRIS are:

62.	i.	JAMES E.⁷ ELDER, b. 27 Jul 1858, ,Saline Co.,Illinois; d. 31 Oct 1937, East St Louis, St. Clair Co.,Illinois.
63.	ii.	JOHN W. ELDER, b. 27 Jan 1859, ,Saline Co.,Illinois; d. 02 Feb 1939, West Alton, Missouri.
	iii.	WILLIAM THOMAS ELDER, b. 28 Apr 1861, ,Saline Co.,Illinois; d. 1942.

More About WILLIAM THOMAS ELDER:
Census: 1870, HH 99 / Eldorado PO, Saline Co., IL

64.	iv.		OSCAR MANSFIELD ELDER, b. 03 Jan 1866, , Saline, Illinois; d. 15 Dec 1953, Alton, Madison County, Illinois.
	v.		SHERMAN ELDER, b. Abt. 1869; d. Unknown.

More About SHERMAN ELDER:
Census: 1880, living with brother James E. Elder

Children of WILLIAM ELDER and GINA WOMACK are:

65.	vi.	EDITH MABEL "EDIE"⁷ ELDER, b. Sep 1884, IL; d. Sep 1947, Warren,Bradley Co.,Arkansas.
66.	vii.	BESSIE MAUD "BESS" ELDER, b. 02 Feb 1891, Ripley Co.,Missouri; d. 14 Jun 1959, Arkansas.
67.	viii.	SARAH MARGARET "MAG" ELDER, b. 04 Feb 1894, Doniphan,Ripley Co.,Missouri; d. 27 Sep 1936, Arkansas.

15. SAMUEL⁶ ELDER, JR. (JOHN⁵, SAMUEL⁴, SAMUEL³, GEORGE², ALEXANDER¹) was born Abt. 1837 in ,,Illinois, and died 17 Jul 1897 in ,,Missouri. He married NANCY M. MURRAY 20 Nov 1856 in ,Saline,Illinois ⁵⁸, daughter of JAMES MURRAY and ELIZABETH NEWMAN. She was born May 1838 in ,,Illinois, and died 1913 in Naylor,Ripley Co.,Missouri.

Notes for SAMUEL ELDER, JR.:
Sam was in the Civil War and was held prisoner at Andersonville for several months and suffered many hardships.

=======from Pension Records on file with National Archives=================

Samuel Elder enlisted at Equality , Illinois on 8/15/1862 for a term of 3 years. He served as a private in Company E 3rd Regiment Illinois Calvary Volunteers.

On 4/7/1864 his commanding officer a Col. John J. Mudd reported him as missing in action. He had participated in the battle at Black River , Miss during the Seige of Vicksburg. He was captured some where along the Baton Rouge Road near Port Hudson, La.

He was paroled at Charleston, SC on 12/6/1864 apparently after serving time at Andersonville prison per a Dr. John Wilson. He was then furloughed for a total of 60 days in order to get treatment for a eye decease. He then went to Benton Barracks, Mo. where he was finally released from service on 5/20/1865.

He and his widow received a monthly pension of 12 dollars.
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The 1880 census shows Sam and Nancy living in Long Branch Pct.,Saline Co.,Illinois along with 9 children. It lists Sam's age as 48 years old and his wife Nancy as 40.

Darrell
in Thelma McManus's book Ripley County Obituaries 1874-1910 on page 109 I found:
1897 22 Jul
Sameul Elder was killed by a blow from a club by Jim Brown at Brown's residence @ 1 1/2 miles below Neelyville. This happened at 2:pm last Saturday. Elder was 53 years old and his wife was Brown's mistress and the cause of the killing. Elder was the brother of WJ Elder who lives @ 2 miles north of town.
This is the only Elder obit listed
Hope this helps
Good luck in your search
Stacy : srichardson@fx2.com

Newspaper Clipping

Neelyville Killing

Sam Elder, a man between 65 and 70 years of age, was instantly killed Saturday by Frank Brown. on what is known as the Johnston place, one mile northwest of Neelyville. The trouble seems to have been the family affairs of Brown, and on this day a quarrel arose between the two while they were seated on a fence, and Brown struck Elder with his fist, knocking him off of the fence, the fall dislocating his neck,and causing instant death. Coroner Dr. J. Carter was sent for to hold an inquest, and The verdict was as above stated. The jury was composed of M.G. Ries, H.F. Kirkpatrick, E.Y. Jenkins, W.H. Tennant, E.R. Reed, J.W. Hall. Brown was brought up from Neelyville and placed in jail, His preliminary trial was to have come up yesterday before Esq. Ingram but he waived examination to await the action of the grand jury. He is about 35 years old and has a family. The dead man's home is in Eldorado, Ill., and he was just getting ready to visit his family, who lives at that place. He was an old soldier and drew a pension, and it has been his custom to go to Eldorado once every three months.

From THE PROSPECT NEWS -Doniphan, Mo. DATED: Thursday July 22, 1897

SAMUEL ELDER, who lived on a farm in Varner Township and a brother of W.J. Elder, who lives a couple of miles north of Doniphan, was killed by a blow from a club in the hands of a man named Jim Brown, at Brown's place of residence about a mile and a half below Neelyville, last Saturday afternoon about 2 O'clock. A woman was the cause of the trouble. Elder was forbidden Brown's house and tried to force his way in, when Brown struck him on the neck with a billet of wood and knocked him off the porch, killing him. Brown walked into Neelyville and surrended to Marshal Nance, and told of the trouble. On going out to Brown's house they found Elder's body lying on the floor where some of those who had gathered at the house had placed it. The coroner impannelled a jury and heard the testimony and the verdict was that Elder came to his death from a blow on the neck with a club in the hands of Brown. The examining trial was held yesterday and Brown was bound over. Elder was 53 years old. Brown's wife, who had been Elder's mistress, was the cause of the killing.

The above article typed per original from The Prospect News, by Vivian K. Elder-Matthews-Cook,
who has photo copy of this article from the newspaper. The day it was copied by Mrs. Cook, the
library copier was on the blink and copy turned out too dark to transmit.

Further remarks by Mrs. Vivian Cook are as follows:
#l Varner Township encompasses an area just North of Naylor, Mo. Running along County Road B from Hwy. 142 through to Fairdealing, Mo. located on Hwy. 160.

#2 Varner Township is used very little today. It is more commonly known as the Gum Cemetery area. Gum Cemetery is located about 3 miles North on county road B. Sits on the left
and is the burial place of many of the Elder family members.

#3. W. J. Elder mentioned above, was William Jackson Elder, brother to Samuel that was killed." Jack" as he was called, lived in a community known as Oak Grove. Oak Grove still exists and is located about 2 miles North of Doniphan, Mo. on Highway 21.

#4. Neelyville, Mo. is located to the East of Naylor about 6 miles, at the intersection of U.S. Highway #61-67 and State hwy. 142., in Butler County. Approximately 25 miles South of Poplar Bluff, Mo. and 12 miles North of the Missouri - Arkansas line.

#5. The Samuel Elder that was killed per the above article, was Vivian s Great-Grandfather, and husband of Nancy M. Murray. The age given in the article, was a definite miscalculation! This may have been what he told his mistress, Mrs. Brown, but the 1850 Census of Illinois.showed him to be 13 at that time, making him 60 years of age, which coincides with the Coroner's report. Vivian has been unable to establish an exact birthdate for him. Census records and other sources of info do not jive. Could have been born as early as 1834.

#6. Samuel's place of burial is not known to Vivian either. Have not been able to locate him in any of the Naylor area cemeteries too date. Vivian secured his Military Records of the Civil War, but they do not tell burial place either.

Further remarks by Mrs. Vivian Cook are as follows:

#l Varner Township encompasses an area just North of Naylor, Mo. Running along County
Road "B" from Hwy. 142 through to Fairdealing, Mo. located on Hwy. 160.

#2 Varner Township is used very little today. It is more commonly known as the Gum Cemetery

More About SAMUEL ELDER, JR.:
Cause of Death: a blow on the neck with a club
Census: 1850, Saline, Illinois age 13

Notes for NANCY M. MURRAY:
no marker found in Naylor Masonic Cemetery but may be Row 4 plot 31

In 1900 Saline Co Rector Township we find Nancy living with her daughter Alice and son Otto. Living 4 doors down from her is her son James Elder.

1910 Census Ripley County Missouri, Thomas Township
HH 256

Elder, Nancy M. head FW 70 WD 10/8 IL NC IL
Lyons, Alice dau FW 41 M1 6 0/0 IL IL IL

More About NANCY M. MURRAY:
Burial: Unknown, Naylor Masonic Cemetery lot bought by Frank Elder
Census: 1850, Raleigh Pct,Saline Co,IL/ age 11/ living with parents

Marriage Notes for SAMUEL ELDER and NANCY MURRAY:
The gender of Samuel Elder is male.

Spouse:            Nancy M. Murray
Marriage Date:      Nov 20, 1856
County:            Saline

This record can be found in the County Court Records, Film # 0965056 - 0965061.

From Saline County Illinois...Marriages 1847 - 1880
Book A Page 22

ELDER, Sam'l., Jun.-Nancy M. Murray, Nov. 20, 1856, Sam'l. Elder Co. Judge

More About SAMUEL ELDER and NANCY MURRAY:
Marriage: 20 Nov 1856, ,Saline,Illinois⁵⁸

Children of SAMUEL ELDER and NANCY MURRAY are:

68.	i.	FRANCIS ABNER "FRANK"⁷ ELDER, b. 13 Jun 1859, Eldorado, Saline, IL; d. 22 Apr 1928, Naylor, Ripley, MO.
69.	ii.	SAMUEL GRANT ELDER, b. 03 Aug 1864, ,Saline Co.,Illinois; d. 25 Sep 1917, Naylor,Ripley Co.,Missouri.
70.	iii.	EDIE ELISABETH ELDER, b. 03 Nov 1865, Eldorado, Saline, Illinois; d. 16 Aug 1941, Raleigh, Illinois.
71.	iv.	EVA ELDER, b. 1869; d. Unknown.
	v.	ALICE ELDER, b. Nov 1867; d. 04 Dec 1932, Thomas Township, Ripley Co, Mo.; m. C. W. LYONS, 23 Sep 1903, Naylor, Ripley, Missouri; d. Unknown.

Notes for ALICE ELDER:
Alice was living with her brother OTTO in 1920 at Naylor, Ripley Co., Mo.

More About ALICE ELDER:
Burial: Unknown, Naylor Cemetery
Census: 1930, HH 177 sheet 9B living with Otto Elder / Thomas Twp., Ripley Co., Mo.

More About C. LYONS and ALICE ELDER:
Marriage: 23 Sep 1903, Naylor, Ripley, Missouri

72.	vi.	JOHN EDGAR ELDER, b. 03 Mar 1874, Illinois; d. 09 Feb 1920, Makanda, Jackson, IL.
73.	vii.	JAMES W. ELDER, b. Dec 1877, Illinois; d. 26 Oct 1925, Fulton, Callaway County, Missouri.
74.	viii.	OTTO MARCUS ELDER, b. 25 Jul 1879, Eldorado, Saline Co., Illinois; d. 25 Apr 1951, Naylor, Ripley Co.,Missouri.
	ix.	JOB ELDER, b. 1880; d. Unknown.

More About JOB ELDER:
Census: 1880, 4 months old / Long Branch Pct., Saline Co., IL

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