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Descendants of John Jonathan Crouch

Generation No. 1

1. JOHN JONATHAN¹ CROUCH was born 1720 in Henry, VA, USA, and died Jan 1800 in Ross, OH. He married MARY B COOPER. She was born Bet. 1720 - 1740.

Notes for JOHN JONATHAN CROUCH:
· ID: I2778 · Name: John Crouch , Sr. · Sex: M · Birth: BET 1720 AND 1747 in WAL ·
Death: BEF NOV 1800 in Ross Co., Ohio or Ohio Co., Kentucky, USA ·
Note: Decendent of Thomas Jefferson Crouchnicki@midwest.net1.
Was an adult in 1750.2.
Was supposed to have come to America with two older brothers in about1750
Here are some notes on the subject of Welsh Crouches from Glenn Crouch's Crouch Family Researcher newsletter. He's ggcrouch@aol.com.
Web site is reportedly http://members.aol.com/ggcrouch/index.htm
"From Maxwell's History of Randolph Co VA, 1898, p.354:
"About 1750 three brothers named Crouch came from Wales and settled in the United States. It cannot be ascertained where they first made their home, but subsequently one went to Tennessee, one to Kentucky and one, whose name was John, and who is the subject of this sketch, settled in Tygart's Valley, near the mouth of Shaver Run."In an article sent by Mr. David Boatman that was compiled by Flora Lusk Ward we find: "Three brothers by the name of Crouch immigrated to America in the early part of the seventeenth century. They were Welchmen. (About 1740). Their names were John, James, and perhaps Andrew." [I believe 1740 is in eighteenth century].In an article titled Crouch sent by Dr. Edith Shuman we find: "A traditional account says that three brothers went from Wales to Maryland, and then, to Virginia, John Crouch, James Crouch, and Andrew Crouch. John Crouch was in Augusta County, Virginia, by 1750, and later settled in Randolph County, (West) Virginia. Andrew Crouch about the same time then, on to Kentucky, went west. James Crouch was not heard from after Randolph County in the early days."From an article titled The Crouch Name sent by Mr. Charles Lilly we find: "A family tradition in a history book of Randolph County stated three brothers, John Crouch, James Crouch, and Andrew Crouch went from Wales to Maryland, and then to Virginia. John Crouch was in Augusta County, Virginia, in 1750, and later went to Randolph County, created from Harrison County in 1787. Randolph County was in the western part of Virginia that became West Virginia in 1863. In the early days, James Crouch was in Randolph County not heard from again. Andrew Crouch went on to Kentucky, and went west.""From Mr. Warner Crouch in The Name and Family of Crouch, manuscript no. 659, Roots Research Bureau, Ltd., 1984, p.7: "John, James, and Andrew Crouch, who are said to have been brothers, came from Wales to America about 1750 and made their homes in Randolph County, W.Va.""there is alot of confusion on this family, and several documents have recently been located that prove that Maxwell's History of RandolphCounty, WV, on the Crouch Family was incorrect, and that the information he gives listing John, Andrew, and James as brothers is wrong.Several documents have been found which contradict some of the assumptions made by Hu Maxwell, [ History of Randolph County, WV] andHomer Fansler, [ History of Tucker County, WV], about the family of John Crouch Sr. One document in particular is a record of an interview with David Crouch, son of John Crouch Sr, which substantiates and contradicts Fansler's information, [ David Crouch Interview, Draper CollectionManuscripts, Volume 12CC225-29, Nicholas County, Kentucky]Fansler had no information showing where John Crouch Sr. lived prior to his settlement on Cheat River in present Tucker County. David Crouch stated that his father lived some years on the South Branch, went from there to the Carolinas, lived two or three years on the Yadkin in the same section with Boone, then came back again to the South Branch.David described their settlement as being 50 miles from the South Branchwith five mountains to cross going there that were so steep a horse could hardly carry a man over them. David also said that "he was born in August 1767 on the heads of the Mnongahela in Randolph County, Virginia and that his father was one of the first settlers there. His father came to Tygart's Valley when David was 3 years old." This part of his statement appears to be in agreement with Fansler's article. John Crouch's settlement in 1766 on the Cheat River, in present Tucker County, WV, would be considered on a head of the Monongahela. According to David his father moved to the Tygart'sValley in 1770 and not 1772 as Fansler concluded.Maxwell's and Fansler's theory that John Crouch Sr., Andrew Crouch andJames Crouch were brothers and that Andrew had a mature son Joseph before coming to the area appears to be totally incorrect.The name James Crouch first appears in Alexander Scott Wither's account of an Indian Ambush which occured in Tygarts Valley,[ Withers, AlexanderScott, Chronicles of Border Warfare, 1895, pg. 287]. Withers states inhis book that James Crouch was wounded during an Indian ambush in March1780 when John Nelson, John McLean and James Ralston were killed. David Crouch named the same men as being killed in an ambush during which his brother Jonathon Crouch was shot through the arm. The name James Crouch does not appear in any of the early recordsof Randolph County.During the interview David does not mention his father by name, however he does say that "the Commisoners appointed to adjust land claims sat aday or two at my Father's." The records of the Commissioners show that they met at John Crouch's on March 23 and 24 in 1780. David stated that Joseph Crouch was his older brother, therefore Joseph was a son of John Crouch and not Andrew Crouch as Fansler assumed.Fansler's account of the circumstances surrounding the death of John Crouch Sr., also appears to be false. He states that John Crouch Sr.was killed by a rattlesnake bite at his home in Randolph County in 1787.David said that his father lived in Tygart's Valley for seventeen years and that he and his father came to Kentucky in 1787. David also said that when his father came to Kentucky, he bought 5 miles this side of Lexington, moved to Bourbon and from there to Ohio where he died. Fanler's reference to Deed Book 6, pages 659,663, and 665 for information on John Crouch Sr was found to be incorrect. These deeds were recorded in 1815 from John Crouch, [son of Andrew Crouch and Judith Westfall] Sheriff of Randolph County, and don't provide any information about John Crouch Sr. as Fansler states. A petition by the inhabitants of the Tygart's Valley in 1776 shows JohnCrouch Sr, John Crouch Jr, Joseph Crouch, Jonathan Crouch, and Andrew Crouch were all living in the valley at the time. Records also show that Joseph Crouch was born in 1748, and Andrew was born in 1750, which also shows that they were brothers, not father and son. In the first census of Harrison County in 1785 the following were listed as living in the Tygarts Valley between Petty's Ford [near present day Valley Bend] and the County line, John Crouch Sr., John Crouch Jr.,Jonathon Crouch, Jacob Crouch, Judy Crouch and Joseph Crouch. It appears that Judith Crouch, [Judy] was the widow of Andrew Crouch who died or was killed prior to 1782. The exact date and circumstances surrounding the death of Andrew Crouch is not known. The records show that the estate of Jonathon Crouch was settled in 1786 and it was Jonathon, not John Sr. that was killed by a rattlesnake bite as the legend states. Based on the David Crouch interview and deeds recorded in Randolph County all of the Crouch families, except the family of Andrew and Judith Crouch, moved from Tygart's Valley to Kentucky prior to 1800. The 1802 tax records of Randolph County shows only John Crouch, and Andrew Crouch as being heads of households and Jacob Crouch was living with Andrew Crouch, [ John, Andrew, and Jacob were all children of Andrew Crouch and Judith Westfall ].On June 7, 1786 John Crouch, son and heir of Andrew Crouch recieved 210 acres of land in Randolph County, [Randolph County Deed Book 1 page 15]. John would have been about 12 years of age at that time and this conveyance may have been the land transfer, under the law of"primogenetin" [ giving all of the property to the eldest son ], that Fansler was referring to in his book. On March 28, 1801 John Crouch and wife Mary Nelson Crouch, [ daughter of Charles Nelson Sr. and Elizabeth Fore ] conveyed this same 210 acres of land in Randolph County to Jacob and Andrew Crouch, [ John's brother's ]Fansler states in his book that John Crouch's son, Major John Crouch, was the first white child born in what is now Randolph County. The census records show that Major John was born in 1774, however other recorded documents show that John Crouch's sons, John Jr. and Jonathon, were both born prior to his moving to Tygart's Valley. Their names appearing on the petition in 1776 would indicate that they were both over sixteen years of age at that time.Records show that the following were the children of John Crouch Sr.:Joseph Crouch, married to Elizabeth Warwick Andrew Crouch married to Judith Westfall Elizabeth Crouch, married to Henry DeLay Eleanor Crouch, married to Chalres Nelson Jr. John Crouch Jr., married to Sarah Nelson Jonathon Crouch, died 1786 unmarried Jacob Crouch Sarah Crouch, married to John Ryan David Crouch, married to Elizabeth Cassity. John Crouch Sr. and his wife Mary, along with son David and his family, left Wv in 1787. John Sr.'s daughter Elizabeth, married to Henry Delay had left the following year, and in 1789, His son's John Crouch Jr., his family, and his oldest son Joseph left as well. They all owned land in Tygart's Valley except for David, and they all show up in land records after they leave WV in Bourbon County Kentucky. John Sr.s daughter Sarah married John Ryan and settled in Mercer County. John Sr. had 2 more sons, one named Andrew, who was born in 1750, and died in 1780,married to Judith Westfall, his four children remained in WV and show up on tax lists and census records, as well as land. Andrew by the way also had a son named John, born in 1773, who was married to Mary Nelson. Mary's sister Sarah, was married to John Crouch Sr.'s sons John Jr., and both are mentioned in Mary and Sarah's fathers [ Charles Nelson/ Fornelson ] will, andif you would like the documentation, I have it.Charles Nelson also obtained a joint land grant with Andrew Crouch, Joseph Crouch, and James Lackey. Charles widow, Eleanor, moved to Kentucky as well. I havefurther info if needed.John Sr.'s last child was Johnathon, who died in 1785, and his letter of administration of estate is also documented.
Marriage 1 Mary b: BET 1720 AND 1750 in WAL
Children 1. David Crouch b: AUG 1767 in Randolph Co. or Augusta Co., Virginia, USA

· ID: I0202 · Name: JOHN CROUCH , SR. · Sex: M · Birth: in VIRGINIA ·
Note: JOHN CROUCH, SR. CAME TO KY. IN 1787 FROM RANDOLPH CO., VA. KNOWN AS THE TYGART RIVER VALLEY NOW WEST VA. THIS AREA WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE DISTRICT OF WEST AUGUSTA CO., VA. HIS SON, JOHN CROUCH, JR. AND SARAH NELSON, WIFE OF JOHN JR. AND DAUGHTER OF JACOB NELSON, CAME WITH HIM. THE ONLY REFEREANCE I HAVE OF HIS WIFE, MARY B. CROUCH , IS IN A LETTER FROM COL. O. T. WILLS OF ANDEERSON, INDIANA (DATED 29, APRIL 1980-PG.12) HE REFERENCES HER WILL DATED NOV. 1, 1800 AND PROVEN IN COURT JANUARY 1801 WHERE SHE MENTIONS HER THEN DECEASED HUSBAND, JOHN CROUCH. (BOURBON CO., WILL BOOK-B PG 113)THEY SETTLED ON THE HINKSTON CREEK IN NICHOLAS COUNTY AFTER A SHORT STAY AT BRYAN'S STATION IN FAYETTE COUNTY. IN THE 1800 CENSUS, HE IS LISTE3D AS LIVING IN SCOTT COUNTY (LATER HARRISON). IN 1782 IN MONONGOLILIA CO., VA. HE HAD A FAMILY OF FOUR (4). IN 1790 HE HAD A FAMILY OF THREE (3). HE LIVED IN VIRGINIA DURING THE AMEERICAN REVOLUTION GIVING PATRIOTS SERVICE. HE OWNED 200 ACRES OF LAND IN HARRISON CO., KY.A SUIT OF CHANCERY IN DEED BOOK 19, (PGS. 95-95) DATED FEBRUARY 12, 1841 HELD OVER FROM SEPTEMBEER 1840 NAMED HIS CHILDREN AS FOLLOWS: 1. JOHN JR. 2.RICHARD 3.JOSEPH 4.THOMAS 5.MATILDA 6. MARY 7.WILLIAM (B. 1803-KY.). ANOTHER SON, DAVID, IS MENTIONED IN MARY B. CROUCH'S WILL.IN THE LETTER FROM COL. O. T. WILLS HE MENTIONS AN INTERVIEW IN THE DRAPER MANUSCRIPTS (12CC 225-229) WITH DAVID CROUCH AND HIS WIFE WHO WERE THEN LIVING ON THE EDGE OF NICHOLAS COUNTY ABOUT FOUR MILES NORTH OF SHARPSBURG. BOTH WERE THEN BLIND. (SHE WAS A DAUGHTER OF JOHN CASSIDY AND THE CROUCHS AND CASSIDYS WERE AT TYGART'S VALLEY BEFORE COMING TO KY.) DAVID WAS BORN 1767 IN RANDOLPH CO., VA. HIS FATHER MOVED TO KY. IN1787. DAVID SAID HIS FAMILY WENT TO TYGART'S VALLEY WHEN HE WAS THREE AND STAYED THERE SEVENTEEN YEARS, THEN TO KY. "WHEN HE CAME TO KY. HE BOUGHT FIVE MILES THIS SIDE OF LEXINGTON, THE RANGE THERE WAS AS GOOD AS WHEAT FIELD. WHEN IT GAVE OUT HE WOULDN'T STAY. HE MOVED TO BOURBON CO. AND FROM THERE AGAIN IN GOOD TIME TO OHIO WHERE HE DIED." DAVID ALSO SAID IN THE INTERVIEW THAT JOSEPH CROUCH WAS HIS OLDEST BROTHER.THE WILL OF A JOHN STOKES (BOURBON CO. WILL BOOK-B, PG 74) WAS WITNESSED BY A DAVID CROUCH AND A JOHN CROUCH. (REFERENCE LETTER OF COL. O.T. WILLS DATED APRIL 29, 1980). MR WILLS SAID: "WHETHER THIS JOHN CROUCH WAS THE OLDER ONE OR JOHN, JR. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING BUT I LEAN TOWARD IT BEING THE YOUNGER ONE, THE OLDER ONE THEN BEING ALREADY DEAD OR LIVING IN OHIO."Marriage 1 MARY B
Children 1. JOHN CROUCH , JR. b: in VIRGINIA
2. RICHARD CROUCH
3. JOSEPH CROUCH
4. THOMAS CROUCH
5. MATILDA CROUCH
6. MARY CROUCH
7. WILLIAM CROUCH b: 1803 in KENTUCKY
8. DAVID CROUCH b: AUG 1767 in RANDOLPH CO., VIRGINIA

This is the article referred to in the first part of this page.

Stories of U.S. Crouches from Wales
A Crouch Family Heritage Association Family Tree page

Dear Mrs. Owen,

Here are some notes on the subject of Welsh Crouches from Glenn Crouch's Crouch Family Researcher newsletter. He's ggcrouch@aol.com. Web site is reportedly http://members.aol.com/ggcrouch/index.htm

"From Maxwell's History of Randolph Co VA, 1898, p.354: "About 1750 three brothers named Crouch came from Wales and settled in the United States. It cannot be ascertained where they first made their home, but subsequently one went to Tennessee, one to Kentucky and one, whose name was John, and who is the subject of this sketch, settled in Tygart's Valley, near the mouth of Shaver Run."

In an article sent by Mr. David Boatman that was compiled by Flora Lusk Ward we find: "Three brothers by the name of Crouch immigrated to America in the early part of the seventeenth century. They were Welchmen. (About 1740). Their names were John, James, and perhaps Andrew." [I believe 1740 is in eighteenth century].

In an article titled Crouch sent by Dr. Edith Shuman we find: "A traditional account says that three brothers went from Wales to Maryland, and then, to Virginia, John Crouch, James Crouch, and Andrew Crouch. John Crouch was in Augusta County, Virginia, by 1750, and later settled in Randolph County, (West) Virginia. Andrew Crouch about the same time then, on to Kentucky, went west. James Crouch was not heard from after Randolph County in the early days."

From an article titled The Crouch Name sent by Mr. Charles Lilly we find: "A family tradition in a history book of Randolph County stated three brothers, John Crouch, James Crouch, and Andrew Crouch went from Wales to Maryland, and then to Virginia. John Crouch was in Augusta County, Virginia, in 1750, and later went to Randolph County, created from Harrison County in 1787. Randolph County was in the western part of Virginia that became West Virginia in 1863. In the early days, James Crouch was in Randolph County not heard from again. Andrew Crouch went on to Kentucky, and went west."

"From Mr. Warner Crouch in The Name and Family of Crouch, manuscript no. 659, Roots Research Bureau, Ltd., 1984, p.7: "John, James, and Andrew Crouch, who are said to have been brothers, came from Wales to America about 1750 and made their homes in Randolph County, W.Va.""

-John Crouch

Info from the late Glenn Crouch, Editor of the Crouch Family Researcher.

EARLY NOTES ON THE SUMMERFIELD FAMILY: PRE 1780
BY
DAVID ARMSTRONG
(Based on Research Completed as of August 1992)
Virginia law of the period provided that any person or persons who would settle themselves or their agents on unappropriated lands on western waters prior to 1 Jan 1778 were entitled to 400 acres of land to include their settlement. As was mentioned, Moses Thompson made such a settlement at the mouth of Stalnaker Run of Leading creek in the Tygart Valley. This settlement right included the bottom land at and around the mouth of that run, and extended east up the run a short .distance.(17) Just up Leading Creek from there, immediately northeast of Horse Run, Charles Cleaver had made another pre 1778 settlement.(18) Under the law the state was divided into districts and commissioners were appointed for each of these to settle claims made by settlers. At the meeting of the commissioners for 22 March 1780 at the home of John Crouch near present day Valley Bend and Mill Creek, West Virginia, Joseph Summerfield ("Somerfield") was granted certificates for two 400 acre settlement rights, one as assignee of Moses Thompson and one as assignee of Charles Cleaver, these being the settlement rights referred to above. Summerfield had apparently purchased the rights to those settlements from Thompson's heirs and from Charles Cleaver.(19) By November of 1780 Summerfield apparently had moved to that location, as his name appears as an "inhabitant of Tigers Valley" in the legislative petition of that date.(20)

From Linda Crouch
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My branch of the Crouch family originated with John Crouch, who cam from Wales in the 1700s. The family was located in Virginia, then West Virginia until the mid 1800s, when there was a family split over Civil war issues. My branch of the family moved north to Iowa and South Dakota




Children of JOHN CROUCH and MARY COOPER are:

JONATHAN² CROUCH, b. Bet. 1740 - 1750, Virginia; d. 1786.

Notes for JONATHAN CROUCH:
Jonathon Crouch, son of John Sr, died in the summer of 1786, as is proven by his letter of administration of estate in the Harrison County, Va Court Minute Book 1784-1792

	ii.	SARAH CROUCH, b. Bet. 1740 - 1750, Virginia; m. JOHN RYAN; b. Unknown, Virginia.
	iii.	JACOB CROUCH, b. 1745, Virginia; d. 1835, Fairfield Ohio; m. ANN GARY; b. 1747, Newberry, SC, USA; d. 1837.
2.	iv.	JOSEPH CROUCH, b. 1748, Randolph Co Virginia.
3.	v.	ANDREW CROUCH, b. 05 Sep 1750, Augusta, VA, USA; d. 26 Jul 1780.
4.	vi.	ELIZABETH CROUCH, b. 1752, Virginia; d. 1820, Scioto, OH, USA.
5.	vii.	ELEANOR CROUCH, b. 1760, KY, USA; d. 1826, Fairfield, OH, USA.
6.	viii.	DAVID CROUCH, b. Aug 1767, Augusta, VA, USA; d. 1853, Nicholas, KY, USA.
7.	ix.	JOHN JR CROUCH, b. 1769, Randolph, VA, USA; d. 1847, Bourbon, KY, USA.

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